Just out of curiosity

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(not that I'm advocating this)

Imagine a gun show - they're packed now with attendees. Someone walks in with a ready-to-roll AR-15 and a rate of fire of 15 rounds per minute (up to a theoretical 45) and a high-capacity clip, plus maybe even some body armor. How many people can they pick off before someone takes them out?

Now imagine someone tries the same thing but with a handgun they have to reload.

Under which scenario do more people walk out of the show alive?

Because I think that no matter how you look at this, how many armed "opposers" there are is not the important factor. It's rate of fire and high capacity clips that skew the resulting death rate.

[Duckhunter935]

1. gun show people are not armed

All weapons generally have bolts ziptied open. I guess they could cut one off load some magazines and then return fire. I would not think you could get past security with a magazine in a weapon like that.

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2. Well, imagine some other scenario where they are armed

A Larry the Cable Guy concert or something (and I like Larry).

On edit: Or perhaps church. Or outside a NASCAR rally. I don't friggin' know, but you get the idea.

[Duckhunter935]

3. Well as a CCW carrier

I would never draw as there are too many innocent people that may be hit by my return fire. That is part of the training. There are too many variables to try and really get a good idea of how many casualties. How crowded? If it is to crowded that weapon would suck and I suspect he would be bumrushed pretty quick.

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4. So, arming more people isn't necessarily the answer

(not trying to lure you into a trap)

but the NRA position is more armed people, the safer, and you, as a responsible gun owner, is saying no way in hell you're drawing that gun with innocents all over the place. Hell, even police rarely do that (fire with lots of innocents around) - they clear the area of as many bystanders first as possible.

[thucythucy]

5. They have security at gun shows

that regulate the way people can carry their weapons?

And no one is affronted by this assault on their second amendment rights?