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uppityperson

(115,680 posts)
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:55 PM Jan 2013

Derogatory comments and preexisting beliefs

The article is about climate change trolls, but could be applied to other things like, say, guns and gun control. it appeared that pushing people's emotional buttons, through derogatory comments, made them double down on their preexisting beliefs.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/you-idiot-course-trolls-comments-make-you-believe-science-less

The Science of Why Comment Trolls Suck

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In a recent study, a team of researchers from the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication and several other institutions employed a survey of 1,183 Americans to get at the negative consequences of vituperative online comments for the public understanding of science. Participants were asked to read a blog post containing a balanced discussion of the risks and benefits of nanotechnology (which is already all around us and supports a $91 billion US industry). The text of the post was the same for all participants, but the tone of the comments varied. Sometimes, they were "civil"—e.g., no name calling or flaming. But sometimes they were more like this: "If you don’t see the benefits of using nanotechnology in these products, you're an idiot."

The researchers were trying to find out what effect exposure to such rudeness had on public perceptions of nanotech risks. They found that it wasn't a good one. Rather, it polarized the audience: Those who already thought nanorisks were low tended to become more sure of themselves when exposed to name-calling, while those who thought nanorisks are high were more likely to move in their own favored direction. In other words, it appeared that pushing people's emotional buttons, through derogatory comments, made them double down on their preexisting beliefs.

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In the context of the psychological theory of motivated reasoning, this makes a great deal of sense. Based on pretty indisputable observations about how the brain works, the theory notes that people feel first, and think second. The emotions come faster than the "rational" thoughts—and also shape the retrieval of those thoughts from memory. Therefore, if reading insults activates one's emotions, the "thinking" process may be more likely to be defensive in nature, and focused on preserving one's identity and preexisting beliefs
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Derogatory comments and preexisting beliefs (Original Post) uppityperson Jan 2013 OP
This makes total sense. 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #1
Good idea. Wait Wut Jan 2013 #4
Please do so if you haven't already. uppityperson Jan 2013 #11
Done! Wait Wut Jan 2013 #14
We should tell them how dumb it is to hit themselves with a hammer over and over Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #2
One of my Dad's favorite sayings was 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #5
And this applies to everybody. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #3
K&R patrice Jan 2013 #6
I've been waiting for something like this. CommoFreq Jan 2013 #7
Earlg's comment on your ban message is delicious irony. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #15
interesting! Kali Jan 2013 #8
You mean calling everyone "delicate flowers" doesn't persuade them? cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #9
LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #10
Speaking as someone that's pro-gun control, JoeyT Jan 2013 #13
Ah, but there's always an audience... baldguy Jan 2013 #12

uppityperson

(115,680 posts)
11. Please do so if you haven't already.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:32 PM
Jan 2013

I'm taking a bit of a DU break but wanted to share this as I found it interesting. thanks.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. We should tell them how dumb it is to hit themselves with a hammer over and over
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jan 2013

And then laugh derisively.

(purely as a confirmatory science experiment).

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. One of my Dad's favorite sayings was
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jan 2013

"he/she" are like someone hitting themselves on the head with a hammer, just
because it feels so good when they quit"

He was also a loyal Democrat, God bless him.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
3. And this applies to everybody.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jan 2013

Ridiculing a person's viewpoint rather than discussing the points in a rational manner makes them double down partly to exact vengeance on the other. Respectful debate is a must.

 

CommoFreq

(11 posts)
7. I've been waiting for something like this.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jan 2013

It seems that this was always a phenomenon but nobody with letters next to their names bothered to give it much attention.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
9. You mean calling everyone "delicate flowers" doesn't persuade them?
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jan 2013

Damn... I may have to rethink this thing.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
10. LOL
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jan 2013

> You mean calling everyone "delicate flowers" doesn't persuade them?

To convince hard-line Delicate Flowers that their need for their Precious is illusory, they'd have to face many months of intense psychiatric care to rid them of their deep, deep fear & paranoia.

IOW, it's not a belief system that can be changed on a chatboard.

In fact, let me know when you find somebody out of the millions on chatboards who changed their opinion on a core issue due to posts on that chatboard. Naturally you'll have to do a lot of work to prove it, since anybody can say anything on a chatboard.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
13. Speaking as someone that's pro-gun control,
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:41 AM
Jan 2013

it's people that do nothing but make silly-assed comments that enable the NRA.

Go be on someone else's side.

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