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http://gawker.com/5976106/oil+loving-smoothie-bar-owner-taxes-liberals-one-dollar-extra-per-drinkThe oil-obsessed owner of a juice and smoothie bar in the Eastern Utah town of Vernal says he's trying to make a point about fiscal responsibility by charging liberal patrons a dollar a dollar extra for their drink.
"We have a fiscal problem in this country. We've got to deal with it or we don't have a country," I Love Drilling Juice & Smoothie Bar owner George Burnett told KSL. "So to kind of help make that point, just a little bit, I charge (liberals) just a little bit more."
Burnett says he makes it very clear to liberal customers that he's going to charge them an extra dollar, and that he's going to donate that dollar to conservative organizations like The Heritage Foundation.
His "liberal tax" has been criticized on Facebook as "pathetic" and "offensive," but at least one conservative customer is perfectly fine with putting a surcharge on certain political views.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I thought those were "froo froo liberal" drinks.
Wacky Utah bastard...
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Cha
(297,257 posts)louis-t
(23,295 posts)Any "liberal" that goes there ought to have his head examined.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)Pretty damned stupid, actually.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)subterranean
(3,427 posts)But I agree it's a dumb idea. He is basically telling liberals he doesn't want their business. And how would he know, anyway? Does he ask every customer about their political views when they order a smoothie?
This is Vernon, Utah. Half the population are not liberal by any means, it is the reddest of the red.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)So a boycott would be useless.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Not five bucks, nor six...for the owner. He'd get exactly zero from me. Oh and I would make sure he knows.
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)And, how the hell would he know, anyway? Does this jackass actually believe that someone is going to come up and say, "Yeah, I'm a liberal. I give you an extra buck for your crappy smoothie!", let alone lose the business of every last liberal in town? The stupid. It burns.
bubbayugga
(222 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I have a blender, a juicer, and a food processor. Fuck him.
Initech
(100,079 posts)"On second thought forget about the juice bar!!!" - Bender
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Then.. not pay! What a dumb nutjob.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)He's gonna donate the $1.00 sur-tax to conservative organizations like The Heritage Foundation? Yeah, right!
First, no "liberals" will go there to be charged; and secondly, he's clearly a {word that rhymes with DICK}, so he's gonna pocket the cash.
Cha
(297,257 posts)fascist smoothie for donating to spreading fascism. lol
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)warrior1
(12,325 posts)and why would liberal support his business?
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Except you actually get more for being liberal. Hell electing radical gets you even more.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)no matter what the size. Maybe that'll teach conservos a lesson.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)I am willing to translate all sorts of offensive things for information purposes. If someone is researching World War II and wants to have some Japanese government propaganda translated, I'll do it. If a business wants me to translate a magazine article outlining the views of a right-wing xenophobe who happens to represent the Japanese city where they want to build a plant, I'll do it.
However, the one time I told a customer to take their business elsewhere was when a group of Americans who for some reason had gotten all enamored of a really offensive pre-war Japanese intellectual decided that they wanted to promote his ideas. I had not heard of him and knew nothing of his ideas, so I innocently started translating. Then I realized that he was a misogynist, a warmonger, and a racist, so I sent back what I had translated (telling them "no charge for this" and told them that I had no interest in being involved in the project.
In most cases, though, I have no idea what the political orientations of my customers are.
Great Caesars Ghost
(532 posts)when they fill out the forms for my services. Yes, I can get away with it because political affiliation is not a legal class.
LeftinOH
(5,354 posts)which is probably his intention. I hope his business fails.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Not many liberals live there.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Utah has land rights to all that shale oil, it will bring money into the state at the cost of the environment.
Baitball Blogger
(46,715 posts)on marketing and capitalism.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Is that the point he is trying to make?
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)former9thward
(32,013 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)from the govermnt then they give to the governmnt
former9thward
(32,013 posts)Red and Blue. You do know don't you that those dollars coming back are not going to residents, don't you. They are going to federally owned or controlled land or projects. What exactly is this welfare you talk about?
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)they give to the feds. parce it anyway you want but they are getting more than the give that makes them welfare states. that welfare
former9thward
(32,013 posts)In my state (AZ) the federal government funds national parks (federal), national forests (federal), military bases (federal), Native American reservations (federal), social security payments (federal), federal pensions and disability payments (federal), border security (federal). Now what exactly is going to the state? And which of those do you call "welfare"?
BTW CA gets $79 billion a year from the federal government to support the state budget (40% of it). Are they a "welfare" state? http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Debt-deal-could-devastate-California-budget-2352680.php
ShadesOfBlue
(40 posts)A welfare state is one that gets more back from the Federal goverment than it gives to the Federal government (via taxes). There have been countless reports over the past year about red states being mostly welfare states while blue states being the ones to get back less than what they give. And that includes California. Governor Christie has been pointing this out for weeks as he targeted Republican congressman from red states who were against Hurrican Sandy relief DESPITE the fact that the states those congressmen represent have been getting disaster relief for decades and despite the fact that New Jersey was a state that has given more to the country than it has recieved. Period.
If you don't like the term "welfare state" that's just too bad. Take it up with the media who has coined that term instead of getting angry at posters on this forum. Frankly I love the fact that virtually every red state in the South fit into the welfare category. This is a result of perfect karma considering during the 80s and 90s Republicans from those states were leading the charge of categorizing black people as nothing but welfare recipients.
former9thward
(32,013 posts)If you provide links to your false assertions I will be happy to show you don't know anything about the subject. Otherwise go play somewhere else.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)California costs 3,913,300,000,000 per year for the federal budget.
They pay in $4,294,500,000,000 in tax revenue to the federal government.
former9thward
(32,013 posts)You are saying CA supplies $4.3 trillion in tax revenue? lol. The entire tax revenue of the U.S. is $2.7 trillion.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)California
Tax revenues of $313,999 million federal expendatures of $260,422 million
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What specifically leads you to believe it's a slur?
former9thward
(32,013 posts)That is a slur and everyone knows it. If it wasn't he/she would not have thrown red states in with it. What is the "welfare"?
OnionPatch
(6,169 posts)like crazy. They had planned to pay for this by robbing our Social Security but since that's getting nowhere, I guess they're getting desperate.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)It wasn't people like ME who gave money to giant banks so they could continue to lay workers off and bonus/perk their way to greater income inequality.
It wasn't people like ME who heisted 700 billion as a fat going-away present to the banksters.
It wasn't people like ME who gave the surplus to the wealthy; who, in turn, rewarded MY unwilling generosity with the WORST 10 year job creation record since the Great Depression.
It wasn't people like ME who charged two long-standing occupations OF CHOICE on this nation's credit card for really no fucking reason at all.
It wasn't people like ME who signed off on corporate pork to assholes like Chuckles and Davy Koch.
It's not people like ME who allocate 51% of the nation's yearly discretionary budget to the military when we already have one that can blow up the world 256 times over.
It wasn't people like ME that put an unqualified dry drunk failure into the highest office of the land, nor was it people like me who put his rubberstamp Congress in for six years so he could proceed to cause much of your "fiscal problem", GEORGE.
You want to charge ME extra, George? FUCK YOU. Where's MY money? I didn't ring up this bill, YOU DID. YOU VOTED FOR THAT FUCKER FUHRER TWICE AND HE STOLE YOUR SHIT AND EVERYONE ELSES!!! WAY TO GO DUMBASS!! WHERE'S MY MONEY, YOU WING-DING ASSMASTER?? WHERE IS IT?????
TeamPooka
(24,228 posts)DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
(408 posts)savings account and breaking the country.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)and then I was done, piss it out under the table before I left.
That'd be worth the extra buck.
Lex
(34,108 posts)I doubt it.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Would be justice.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)And it's pretty pathetic. When I lived in Utah, Vernal was pretty much a running joke. Not the brightest tools in the shed, there.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)Smoothies the official drink of pro-lifers (complete with billboards). Buy a smoothie if you support the Sierra Club. Put a sign as close to the biz as possible. Honk if you love smoothies and women't rights!
For every smoothie purchased at this location $5 will be donated to the progressive congressional re-election campaign. You don't have to ask, we're counting the # of people walking in the door, so a vote for smoothie is a vote for Progressives!
2 can play your game beeaattcchhh
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Someone should give his customers the Ayn Rand self-sufficiency lecture, and explain to them that for the price of a cheap blender and some frozen berries, they can start making their own damn smoothies.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)He was the only kid in the eighth grade with a drivers license,due to his being held back a grade.....TWICE...He went on,after leaving High School,to work in his Dad's plumbing business,(no his name isn't Joe),which he promptly took over,after his fathers passing,and ran into the ground....
Along the way,there was something he wished to do with the physical property his business sat on,out of city limits...Whatever it was,escapes me now,being 40+ years ago,other than it would violate county code...His solution,reasonably enough,was to get himself seated on the County Board,and work to change that code.....The reason ended with that notion...
His entire campaign was spouting off,loudly,on an issue that the changing of would have benefited him and just a small handful of others....He was,as I recall,pretty much laughed out of the election....
My point,for whatever it's worth,is that I believe that most,if not all sizable school systems produce one of these "8th grade drivers".....I think Mr.Smoothie is Vernals.....
Kurska
(5,739 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)RKP5637
(67,109 posts)Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)He doesn't have liberal customers so he doesn't risk losing them, but he does get his stupid conservative customers to think it is awesome and recommend the business to their buddies.
Basically he's pulling a fast one on his loyal customers, typical repub shit. Very typical.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)EC
(12,287 posts)so libs actually go to this bar?
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)Greed is, above all, their primary motivation.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I really don't care if some Repuke idiot has no bearing on recent history. I hope he goes out of business and has to live in a dumpster.
demwing
(16,916 posts)All those young LDS missionaries are overloading servers and hogging up bandwidth, while at the same time presenting themselves as morally superior.
I'm tired of slow porn, served with a side of guilt, damnit! Tax The Morality Wankers!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Calling a 'price increase' a 'tax 'is rather disingenuous of him. But I understand that many people need to redefine words to make the real world simpler and easier to pretend to understand.
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)What's he going to do, call the police and demand you pay him the extra $1
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Assuming you like smoothies ... and his crap-hole is the closest place to get one.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Or at least if I am ever in the town, you can count on it that I will never find out.
What a dumb ass business decision.
Of course it will the the Democrats fault when the business fails.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)tell him I was donating it to Move On or some group like that. Two can play that game, duh.
surrealAmerican
(11,361 posts)... nobody's actually paid that extra dollar because local liberals avoid the place, and liberal out-of-towners take one look at the sign and leave the place.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)If a business advertises their product to the public, it has offer the same product at the same price at the same time to everybody. It would be the same if he tried to charge Catholics or African Americans more.
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)As someone up-thread stated the town probably doesn't have a D within the city limits. Living in the South I see all kinds of signs in bars and restaurants stating liberals, hippies, tree huggers etc will not be served. When I inquire about such signs I'm told it is just a joke. I have canceled my order many times and left. The joke is on them because my liberal dollars are not in their pocket.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)dembotoz
(16,806 posts)sad-cafe
(1,277 posts)what a jerk move.
TeamPooka
(24,228 posts)Last Stand
(472 posts)and one after another have them buy the drink and dump it on the floor.
Every. Single. Time.
"Yup, that's worth a buck."
siligut
(12,272 posts)The guy looks like a young Orin Hatch or Harry Reid and he is soft spoken as well.
keithmkr59255us
(12 posts)I'll be sure to NOT step a foot inside that bigot's smoothie bar. Besides, I can make a good smoothie by himself at home. I give it about 3 months before that dude's place goes out of business, due to alienating a large number of potential customers.
GrantDem
(1,791 posts)One could just walk in and say they are a conservative. This petty juvenile mindset perfectly defines these wackos.
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jmowreader
(50,557 posts)On edit: isn't this a bit like the barbecue joint owner in South Carolina who, after desegregation was the law of the land, posted a sign informing any African-Americans stupid enough to eat in his store that the owner planned to donate the money he made from them to the KKK?
matt819
(10,749 posts)And they can vote with their feet and buy smoothies elsewhere. This is kind of a no-brainer.
It sure would be interesting to know how liberals tip vs conservatives.
Cha
(297,257 posts)boys bush and cheney. What a dumbfuck. And, anyone who goes to a stupid brainwashed smoothie bar.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)He'll likely hand out drinks for free.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)They can not legally charge and collect more than the legal sales tax in the area where the store is.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)stultusporcos
(327 posts)I will not knowningly spend money in a conservative owned business.