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Gun control? Electoral suicide, right? What kind of"pragmatic," "centrist," DLC-leaning inspirer of "Obamabots," "moderate Republican," "Republican-lite" Democrat would touch that issue with a ten-foot pole?
The Washington Post has an opinion:
"Democratic centrists" ought to be the least of the President's worries. Never mind the fact that he's facing the most hostile and virulent Republican House in living memory. One which is threatening to tank the U.S. and world economy out of sheer racist spite, while waving their guns in execration at its bloated corpse.
Yes, this is a fine time to bring up gun control.
The rest: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/15/1179312/-What-Kind-of-President-Takes-on-The-NRA
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)they said the same thing about same sex marriage not long go... He supported he won.... he can read the handwriting on the walls have some faith and remember to vote..
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)The possibility fills me with hope!
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)and not only am I right....I'm happy for them
freshwest
(53,661 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)...and being told by the Gungeon crowd that the President was in their pocket and told by the BOG crowd that the President would never propose such a thing for political reasons.
Seems a lot of people never planned on having this conversation. I think the President most certainly did. The time for gun control reform is now.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Despite the fact I've provide them with links to the Daily Kos Seiu poll on gun control MANY times. They prefer the delusion that the majority of the country agrees with them.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)dsc
(52,166 posts)have something to do with this. I am quite sure Obama didn't plan on that.
Cha
(297,655 posts)sorry they had to be the impetus. But, the time is now..just like it was for Johnson back in his day.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)But my reading of him is that he wanted to do this after Tucson and Aurora but his advisers didn't want to. I hope Obama is listening more to his heart and less to Axelrod, Jarrett, and Plouffe.
Obama is best when he goes with his heart.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)If this article is to be believed he is planning on banning some of them.
We will lose the midterms over this. I really believe that. With climate change
speeding up we just cannot afford to lose. The future of the the next generation
is on the line.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Have you seen the latest polls? The only way we lose this is if we let those NRA bastards win.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)and I do believe we will lose the midterms over this.. I watched it happen once
and I hope to Dog it does not happen again.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)That's the annual bill of gun violence. One hell of a lot of taxpayer/insurer money, while the NRA and their industry, rake in increasing profits. Time for adult responsibility...of the industry.
It's coming out of the 'Hood and into the white, affluent middle class experience. I hate that it took 20 little ones and 6 of their dedicated leaders all in one event, but we grieve, move on and tackle it.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)....he must have said that for a reason.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)...seriously. MANY gun nuts are a bit unhinged already, this could shake their last screw loose....
ecstatic
(32,731 posts)to make this announcement. Will the secret service be checking out the crowds ahead of time?!
namaste2
(74 posts)Right after the 1st Africian American leader gets re-elected, there is the monetary issues, immigration reform being actively sought, energy issues, green future, climate change, LGBT rights, and now the sacred cow of gun regulation. This is before we even think about the issues outside of our borders.
This president knows how important all these issues are and he is the only one that can press forward and make progress on any of these things. He also knows what kind of danger he is already in, let alone the increasingly unhinged contingent that keeps ratcheting up the hysteria over his presidency.
I agree with your call for even more protection for one of our country's most valuable assets, President Obama. The Secret Service has done an amazing job protecting this man as there have never been more threats to any other president. I have the feeling it will only get worse before it gets better. However, I do believe the tide is finally turning and there is sunshine being brought to a lot of the crazy, dark places for all to see. The more that is seen in context, will hasten the change.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Aaaaaah there he goes again. Taking the backs of the babies that were slaughtered so recently. Standing up to do his best to serve and protect the citizens of this nation.
Our President is taking up the fight, as he did with DOMA. Many deem these things to be "political suicide." He doesn't care. He acts for us.
Thank you Sir, for taking on the tough issues, in the face of oppressing opposition.
I for one have his back, as he has ours!
spanone
(135,873 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022192398
(No, I'm not a fan of his - but it *was* the right thing to do.)
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)The Americans With Disabilities Act was passed and signed during the Bush I administration. Bush even said, "Let the shameful wall of exclusion finally come tumbling down."
You read about things like that, and wonder if government is even capable of getting things like that done anymore.
Number23
(24,544 posts)How terribly... odd.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Any chance that I was making a point that this is simply what Presidents do?
Or are we talking paid Republican disruptor?
Regards,
Manny
Number23
(24,544 posts)No way that's what you were doing. But I love how you appeared to casually overlook Bill Clinton's attempt to go against the NRA when he he came up with the assault weapons ban. Nope, launched yourself straight into the arms of GHWB.
Or are we talking paid Republican disruptor?
Only you know for sure. I think the majority of us are far too bored to care either way.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)At least *I* get a monthly check from Karl Rove:
Number23
(24,544 posts)dsc
(52,166 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)Thank you.. and thanks to Dartagnan at Kos!
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)samsingh
(17,601 posts)and end up saving tens of thousands of lives.
MightyMopar
(735 posts)samsingh
(17,601 posts)samsingh
(17,601 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts).
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)and sound like it.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Most of the members want to end unregulated transfers.
Gman
(24,780 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)and has a strong sense of empathy for parents who have to send their children to school everyday. I think these shootings really motivated him to say enough! He's no stranger to gun violence. There's an incident mentioned in "Dreams From My Father" where he and a friend hit the ground when they hear gunshots. He has an understanding of it that we may not know until he writes his presidential memoir- that I am so looking forward to reading.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)I'll have another 4 years, sir!
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)When we say we want to restore the assault weapons ban, don't forget when it started.
Recently we seem to be spending a lot of effort restoring Clinton-era legislation: first tax rates, now the assault weapons ban. Not a bad record for someone a lot of Democrats apparently want to disown.
nan4tjn
(4 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)trollykin.
Bodega Bandit
(3 posts)...who have refused to come into the modern world who think they need guns. OUR PRESIDENT is the man to set them straight, and put this country on the road to sanity. NO MORE GUNS!
stultusporcos
(327 posts)weed.
I would really hate to think that all the pharmaceutical companies that dumped money into his campaign coffers is the reason why he has basically ignored and avoided any real discussion on legal weed.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)This is hardly political suicide. Dems who don't support these new regulations will face the wrath of voters in 2014.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... I have been wanting and only a relative handful of super-gun-nuts will oppose them. Of course, time is of the essence since all available assault-style weapons have been sold and folks are paying double and triple prices to land one while they can.
Danmel
(4,924 posts)And as an armchair psychoanalyst, I think he probably feels some guilt about Newtown & regret that because,of the upcoming election, he failed to act after all of the other mass shootings. This really hit home & hutt. It all should hurt.
flying-skeleton
(698 posts)First ........ OBAMACARE
Now ........ GUN CONTROL
Next ........ Breakup of the Republican Party
tavernier
(12,400 posts)FED UP AND PISSED OFF.
And luckily, mine.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)notundecided
(196 posts)That kind.
sad-cafe
(1,277 posts)and I am proud to have voted for him.