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Do you agree or disagree with Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller's stance in his letter to Vice President Joe Biden -- that neither he nor his deputies will help federal agents take firearms away from law-abiding citizens? "It is the position of this sheriff," he said in the letter," that I refuse to participate, or stand idly by, while my citizens are turned into criminals due to the unconstitutional actions of misguided politicians." http://bit.ly/VlN4m4
10,151 likes and 2,937 shares on FB so far. Of course, the nutters think the Sheriff would be upholding the law by breaking a law which no one is proposing anyway.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)Peace Atman
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)Shit happens.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)it's classier to not point it out - like the poster did with the apostrophes. that post was to THAT poster not you
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)the feds will need to use feds to enforce federal law they cant tell the states to do it
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Forgetaboutit. When the time comes we will bring our Army with the big guns to take care of the situation. Thank you for informing us.
The Magistrate
(95,257 posts)They will spend long terms in Federal custody.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)but my point which is that the feds cant make him enforce federal law is still valid.
The Magistrate
(95,257 posts)If a thing is against both state and Federal law, a local authority may arrest someone, and later turn them over to the Federals, but that is a different thing than a local officer enforcing a Federal law.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)huh?
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)"lefty" or "lib" always seem to turn out to be supporters of the RW, and in your case gun nutters.
Curious, that.
womanofthehills
(8,783 posts)Seems to be a dead giveaway.
FSogol
(45,555 posts)I look forward to seeing the troll that has 3 terms in his name. It'll be something like:
LeftySouthpawLib or DemLiberalUtahLefty
genxlib
(5,544 posts)Please don't include me in that broad brush. The gun nutters (and RW as a whole) can bite me.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)I'm neither a RW supporter, nor a gun nutter.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)because we notice the name more when it strikes us a ironic. I bet more DUers with lib, lefty, etc in thier screen names do not post RW crap.
I do think, however, that there are too many RW-crap-schilling posts on DU, regardless of the screen names.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)but it is not true. oregonlive.com
jeff47
(26,549 posts)For examples, you might wanna take a gander at the interstate highway system. Or consider Medicaid.
Do you think the state DoTs or Health Departments aren't the ones implementing those Federal programs?
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)Crazy country.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)some of the oregon sheriffs are organized and part of a patriot militia. the one northern oregon county sheriff who has refused to send a similar letter is being heavily attacked. katu.com
patrice
(47,992 posts)terms? Was he elected to do that?
Prediction: Mueller is politically ambitious and will run for higher office next.
SWTORFanatic
(385 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)precisely, so that I would not find myself in the position of defending, or at least not fulfilling one's duty toward, someone(s) whom I ought not be assuming that relationship to them in that particular situation in that particular manner.
It's a little like being a classroom teacher, if you're too ambiguous you're going to get used and the essential reason may be that you are trying to be buddies with people that don't need you for their buddy and in regards to whom others in your classroom/community have needs that you are violating in favor of those you have chosen, for whatever reason, to mitigate the rules for.
If someone does this, they should consider spelling it out very precisely legally, so as not to create false expectations on any side in the issue, but, then, I suppose that IS the point, so, if something bad happens, one can always say "That's not what I meant, so it's not my fault that they misunderstood my intentions." That's the classic RepubliKlan tool known as Plausible Deniability.
This guy is playing his county for a sucker. Whatever happens is what he says it is & that's bulllshit, because it's not what he was hired to do. He is not judge and jury. My bet is that he's an ambitious manipulative demagogue who will pull the rug out from under whomever serves his objectives.
SWTORFanatic
(385 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 20, 2013, 04:33 PM - Edit history (1)
instead of crazed gunmen killing theater goers and young school children they were gunning down scores of police, republicans and their supporters?
It is seemingly only the innocent which have to die at the hands of bastards with assault rifles (weapons of mass destruction) and the right wing continue to duck their moral (yeah, I know...they don't have any) responsibility by admitting that they have created this problem: the proliferation of weapons never imagined by the writers of the second amendment.
BTW: I am in now way advocating for the injury or deaths of any sheriff, police officer, republicans or their followers, and it was only to illustrate a point.
okaawhatever
(9,469 posts)they're acting more like politicians with this. When they changed laws in Florida to allow guns on college campuses and other public places, all the police chiefs opposed it. All in the entire state. This moron is giving the impression leo's oppose gun control measures, which isn't true.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)Maybe I need a Bloody Mary.
Response to Atman (Original post)
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Paladin
(28,277 posts)Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)frankly law enforcement in general seems rather in favor of some common sense gun regulations.
Unfortunately, there are squeaky wheel exceptions--seems like these tend to be sheriffs that typically must stand for reelection ergo the RW claptrap--and they're getting plenty of coverage.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)OP hasn't made any point this is supposed to support, and the article speaks for itself.
You're perfect entitled to post some counter-examples.
Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)refusing to enforce laws that dont even exist! Typical right wing--make up shit and be righteously outraged about the untrue shit they make up.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)With lunacy in his soul and blackness in his heart, just like all gun nutters.
Response to Still Sensible (Reply #17)
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still_one
(92,454 posts)Based on the msm one would believe Americans love their guns more than anything else, good "Christian" americans
okaawhatever
(9,469 posts)range and is legal for private purchase in 49 states. WTG NRA
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)okaawhatever
(9,469 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...His letter is pure political grandstanding....throwing raw meat to the True Believers.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)There have been no ideas set forth by anyone other than some here to take existing guns away from law abiding people anywhere. Our sheriff here in Douglas county Oregon made that same statement....Even with the Assault Weapons Ban they never made any attempts to take anyones guns away any existing guns and magazines were "grandfathered" in.
wandy
(3,539 posts)They don't need no stinken inter state highways. They don't need no stinken post office. They gots their freedumb.
Good to see the right wing is doing something creative about the deficit.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)in any county that refuses to obey federal gun laws - for the safety of postal workers, obviously!
Close all their post offices, cease all deliveries and pickups at the county line. Make them all travel to the next county for mail pickup and delivery.
wandy
(3,539 posts)Interstate Highway workers, FAA workers, Agricultural assistance to local farms, anything that requires federal tax dollars.
Sane firearm regulations can be achieved in the same way speed limit regulations were achieved.
We just have to sit down and talk about it like adults.
I see no point in my tax dollars supporting some local "top dog's" temper tantrum.
Bigmack
(8,020 posts).. would have shown guys like this not to fuck with the "feddle gummint".
He knows he's safe... so he's just rousing the rabble.
Now, if Federal Marshalls showed up and clapped him in irons for threatening federal officials in the performance of their duties.... perpwalk, stripsearch, crossbar hotel, orange jumpsuit.....
Damn, aren't fantasies fun!
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)But the assault weapon ban grandfathers in existing owners. And persons with felony convictions cannot have guns anyway (making them not-law abiding anyway). So his letter is just a lot of chest thumping and smoke blowing.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)So this guy will get to look like he's the man that stood up to Obama. When actually he will not be called on to take away any of his law abiding citizen's guns.
An obvious Fox news watcher which means an uninformed, misguided, and perhaps ignorant man. We should question his suitability for his job.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)In case you haven't noticed.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)It only gets all bullshitty if you think about it.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)*shrug*
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)have ever shot people over weed?
lpbk2713
(42,769 posts)Eisenhower and the 101st Airborne soon convinced him that was a really bad move.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)No one is coming after his citizens to take away their guns except in his paranoid, delusional mind.
womanofthehills
(8,783 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Wow, he can hold a paper in front of a camera...well ain't he smart!!!!
samsingh
(17,602 posts)Squinch
(51,050 posts)the sheriff's actions, but it's hard to say. The spelling and composition mostly amount to "ug ug ug. My rites. ug ug ug. Ouch. My knuckles are bleeding."
There is a lot of discussion of rites. Maybe they are religious.
I am guessing a cannibalistic cult of previously undetected bigfoots living in the Catskills. With computers.
Atman
(31,464 posts)The Tea Baggers think he's a hero protecting us from the Communist Socialist Fascist Constitution-shredding America-hating gun grabber.
Squinch
(51,050 posts)regulations. Which no one is asking him to do.
I think I'll write to Joe Biden and tell him I'm not going to spray paint Air Force One. AND I'm not going to bring a horse to church in Massachusetts. Because, goddammit. My rites.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)and it is filled with those knuckledraggers.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"But we HAVE to!!!!!!!!!!"
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)Thank you Sheriff! I live in SC, and I am sure our entire state will take the same attitude and refuse an unconstitutional orders, no matter whom it comes from. My hate is off to you Sheriff, well stated and clear.
classof56
(5,376 posts)Also, Crook County north of me, where their sheriff has made the same idiotic declaration 'bout what he's gonna do to protect all the law-abidin' morans who are madly in love with their guns. Guess I'd better remove the "Obama/Biden" bumper stickers from my car. Sigh...times like this make me sad to be an Oregonian. Sheriff Mueller's kinda cute, though--wonder how he feels about arresting gray-haired grannies who don't pack. Maybe I'll test it out, next time I have a hankerin' to visit the Oregon coast. Would be fun, wiping that smirk off his face!
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)BeeBee
(1,074 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)jmowreader
(50,567 posts)When The Evil Unconstitutional Federal Gummint comes in to deprive Linn County of its constitutional rights, the first thing it's going to do is send platoons of soldiers in to arrest the sheriff and his minions for Obstructing Federal Officers.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)bubbayugga
(222 posts)Snarkoleptic
(6,002 posts)Seems to carry teh crazy gene as well.