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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:58 PM Feb 2013

Seattle's Cherry Street Coffee imposes new 1.5% 'sick leave surcharge'

Source: The Stranger

We received a tip this afternoon from a reader who noticed that Cherry Street Coffee, which has seven locations in and around downtown Seattle, has just put up shiny new signs at all their registers alerting customers to a new "Sick Leave Surcharge" of 1.5 percent on every order.

The sign reads: "Sick Leave Surcharge: To help offset the costs of the City of Seattle's paid sick leave policy we are adding a 1.5% surcharge to all orders. We appreciate your understanding and continued patronage."

If you'll recall, on September 1, 2012, Seattle's new paid sick and safe time law went into effect, mandating that all Seattle employees receive paid sick leave. As Cienna reported at the time, the law was in part aimed at food-service workers, who often don't get sick leave and who, for the love of God, should not be serving you food or brewing your coffee while they are sneezing or barfing (or even just feeling a touch sneezy or barfy).

Says Slog Tipper Whitney: "There were many ways (Cherry Street Coffee owner Ali Ghambari) could have dealt with this. He could have upped prices slightly to compensate, for example." But instead, says Whitney, "he chose to call himself out as a royal dickhead for life, because now we all know he wasn't paying for sick leave before forced to by law."

Read more: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/02/01/local-coffee-chain-starts-charging-customers-a-15-percent-sick-leave-surcharge

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Seattle's Cherry Street Coffee imposes new 1.5% 'sick leave surcharge' (Original Post) Newsjock Feb 2013 OP
Ghambari blew it. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #1
Restaurants in San Francisco do something similar... Gormy Cuss Feb 2013 #2
Yes he did... Agschmid Feb 2013 #3
Fuck that. Seattle is gorged with coffee shops, go elsewhere. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #4
So why make a big thing about it.... wandy Feb 2013 #5
Exactly! n/t Pryderi Feb 2013 #8
I beleive that's answered by the "royal dickhead" part JHB Feb 2013 #16
Crybaby bluestateguy Feb 2013 #6
No -- Howard Schultz dicks his employees around, too -- there are sooooo many gateley Feb 2013 #10
Actually, they do have health insurance, but, it would be lovely if they had sick days. juajen Feb 2013 #20
Oops, I responded to myself instead of to you. gateley Feb 2013 #23
Looks good on paper but I know a few people who work there who indicate it's not gateley Feb 2013 #22
Meh. Cafe Darte is the place to go when I'm in Seattle. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #7
Try Vivace. :-) gateley Feb 2013 #9
Or Cafe Lladro The empressof all Feb 2013 #28
Ooooo, yeah! Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #33
Dayum! The teabaggers are getting thick in the northwest. freshwest Feb 2013 #11
"Royal dickhead" indeed. JBoy Feb 2013 #12
Well, I've ever been and now I'll never go ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #13
You know what? He is really telling Obama to go stick it in a very subtle way.... busterbrown Feb 2013 #15
Like the medical care for New York's police and fire... Grins Feb 2013 #14
How long until he undoes this? NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #17
I don't know about anybody else, but distantearlywarning Feb 2013 #18
At signs like this I always ask how much their rent is and what % of their costs are wages... TeamPooka Feb 2013 #19
yeah, and what's their "CEO's paycheck surcharge" ? phantom power Feb 2013 #21
Why not break it all down. Incitatus Feb 2013 #24
i wonder if any places already paid for sick leave Enrique Feb 2013 #25
You know what, if they didnt advertise this in such a jackasses manner... Earth_First Feb 2013 #26
Papa John style cheapass bass-tid! I say go somewhere else! nt MADem Feb 2013 #27
Naked greed. Don't they have any pride or shame? FedUpWithIt All Feb 2013 #29
Who cares? librabear Feb 2013 #30
I think it's great. hughee99 Feb 2013 #31
Just how tone-deaf are these corp types? KG Feb 2013 #32
That's really good way to tell your customers that you are a cheapskate and don't give a shit idwiyo Feb 2013 #34

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
2. Restaurants in San Francisco do something similar...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:02 PM
Feb 2013

and bunches of them are in hot water for collecting more in surcharges than they distribute in benefits.
http://sanfrancisco.about.com/od/governmentcityservices/qt/San-Francisco-Restaurants-Healthy-Sf-Surcharges-Defraud-Consumers-Grand-Jury-Says.htm

Cherry Street Coffee had better be good at accounting that sick leave surcharge.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
5. So why make a big thing about it....
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:14 PM
Feb 2013

Giving sick leave is a very good idea especially if you are in the food industry.
Just make a few minor changes to you're business plan. Raise your prices if necessary.
No need to be an ass about it.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
16. I beleive that's answered by the "royal dickhead" part
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:36 PM
Feb 2013

I gather he was outraged at the requirement, and is discovering how few of his (possibly now former) customers share that outrage.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
10. No -- Howard Schultz dicks his employees around, too -- there are sooooo many
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:52 PM
Feb 2013

little independent coffee places in Seattle.

Try Vivace (my fave.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
20. Actually, they do have health insurance, but, it would be lovely if they had sick days.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:14 AM
Feb 2013

They used to. Perhaps they will be reinstated. Not many companies give stock to their employees, and they also have very good staff policies, i.e., you have to have three write-ups within six months to be fired. Starbucks is a very well managed company.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
22. Looks good on paper but I know a few people who work there who indicate it's not
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:01 PM
Feb 2013

the most employee-friendly atmosphere.

Also, Schultz has been behind some issues that weren't exactly "giving back to the community". He's become just another greedy businessman who only focuses on getting more.

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
12. "Royal dickhead" indeed.
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:05 PM
Feb 2013

From strictly a business perspective, he's an idiot. Nothing like reminding your food customers, at the point of purchase, of disease and sickness.

ismnotwasm

(41,986 posts)
13. Well, I've ever been and now I'll never go
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:21 PM
Feb 2013

Lost a potential customer, smartasses and I will be telling everyone I know.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
15. You know what? He is really telling Obama to go stick it in a very subtle way....
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:36 PM
Feb 2013

which is not so subtle.... Amazing, the lengths people will go to. I’m sure this guy watches that shit hole of a station as soon as he gets home!!!

Grins

(7,217 posts)
14. Like the medical care for New York's police and fire...
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:31 PM
Feb 2013

...the first responders on 9/11, who were hit by cancer and other diseases, where it took Jon Stewart to publicly shame Congress (i.e., Republicans) to pay for their medical bills...this would not be an issue if there was universal health care!

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
18. I don't know about anybody else, but
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:15 AM
Feb 2013

I would be happy to pay an extra .05 for my next coffee to ensure that my barista is not passing along the flu to me along with my morning dose of caffeine. It could be called the "I don't get a horrible illness this year tax".

TeamPooka

(24,228 posts)
19. At signs like this I always ask how much their rent is and what % of their costs are wages...
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:27 AM
Feb 2013

since they want to share the breakdown of their business costs publicly.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
25. i wonder if any places already paid for sick leave
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:15 PM
Feb 2013

they could put up a sign saying "No surcharge needed, because we paid our workers sick leave before the city made us do it."

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
26. You know what, if they didnt advertise this in such a jackasses manner...
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:19 PM
Feb 2013

I wouldn't mind.

I still don't mind, if I have to pay more for equality, so be it.

However, dont politicize it. Say hey, "in order to offer a more equitiable work environment for our employees, you may notice a modest price increase in the services we provide."

Why is that so hard?

 

librabear

(85 posts)
30. Who cares?
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:28 PM
Feb 2013

So rather than raise prices he instituted a surcharge to make the cost more obvious to the customer. He's obviously pushing an agenda. If you don't like it you don't have to buy coffee there.

I fail to see why this is news. The airline charges me for TSA inspections too.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
31. I think it's great.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:31 PM
Feb 2013

but I'd like to see a company break down it's ENTIRE cost structure.

For a cup of coffee...
1.5% sick leave
3.4% for your server
4.9% for the store manager
17% for the coffee
5% for the water
2% for the cup
11% for store operating costs
27% for the CEO and top executives salary, bonuses and benefits
14% advertising
11% profit
etc...

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
34. That's really good way to tell your customers that you are a cheapskate and don't give a shit
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:23 PM
Feb 2013

about your employees OR your customers.
If you are barely scraping by and trying to keep your business afloat, just say so. I bet majority of customers would be more than wiling to throw in few extra pennies to make sure your employees keep their jobs AND get payed sick leave too. At least I would be happy to pay extra for that.

BTW, I still find it incomprehensible that US doesn't have NHS like healthcare system.
Guess I shouldn't be so shocked there is such thing as unpaid sick leave...

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