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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew show "House of Cards" is a must see for fans of political dramas
I just watched the first two episodes of House of Cards that debuted on Netflix today and it looks like it has very strong potential to be one of the best television drama shows ever. House of Cards is the first big budget television series to not even air on television, it is exclusive to Netflix and they released every episode of the first season simultaneously today.
While I can only comment on the first two episodes of the thirteen episode season as that is all I have had time to watch so far, those first two episodes pulled me in and did not let go.
I don't want to give any big spoilers so I am going to be somewhat vague in what I say about the plot, but it is a show that people who are cynical about American politics are going to love. While the show takes place in Washington in the halls of Congress and the White House, this is not The West Wing. While The West Wing was very idealistic, House of Cards is a very dark and cynical take on Washington.
Kevin Spacey plays the Democratic House Majority Whip, but if you are expecting a Democrat that stands up for our values you are going to hate his character. Spacey plays the worst type of Blue Dog southern Democrat, he is a man who is in politics only for his own personal gain and does not care about who his actions hurt. He pretends to be loyal to his party but when no one is looking he is more than happy to leak info to the right-wing media for them to use against anyone who gets in his way.
That is all I will say about the plot because this is one of those shows you need to watch to see what will happen next, but the acting, writing, and cinematography are all top notch. Spacey's performance is easily his best since American Beauty, you may want to smack his character upside the head but he is still certain to mesmerize you. Robin Wright plays his wife and she seems to be a pretty ruthless person herself, Wright's performance is also top notch.
The show was created from a collaboration between David Fincher (director of Fight Club and The Social Network) and Beau Willimon (screenwriter for The Ides of March). Fincher directs the first two episodes and he does an amazing job at it, he is a master at using music and editing to pull you into the scene and keep you entertained without dumbing anything down.
The first two episodes don't get into too many controversial political issues, that very well may come later in the series but the first couple of episodes are mostly focused on the shady side of Washington where people are bribed and politicians are blackmailed. Those who say Democrats can do no wrong may not like it, but those on the left who take a more cynical look at our political system are going to love the show.
If you have Netflix go watch it right now.
elleng
(130,918 posts)Have to remember how to sign on @ Netflix.
MADem
(135,425 posts)TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)That's always fun!
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)NetFlix? You got to be kidding.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Current TV never had so many viewers.
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)HBO and Showtime cost about the same per month as a Netflix Instant subscription, and you get more content on Netflix; HBO and Showtime have exclusive programming, so why NOT Netflix?
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)...of the UK's House of Cards?
It seems like it might be similar. Sounds good, I'll certainly tune in.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I never saw the UK show so I can't say which is better, but the American version is must see. I will have to watch the UK show after I finish the American one.
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)Loved the UK version & I can't wait to see the Netflix version.
CBHagman
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Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)I knew it sounded familiar!
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)CBHagman
(16,984 posts)Characters address him as F.U. for short.
Sample clip:
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)the original is very very good and I'm not really sure that it can translate very well to an American setting.
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)David Fincher is arguably the best living US filmmaker. Lots of people thought his Girl with the Dragon Tattoo wouldn't translate, but, damn, if he didn't pull it off.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)and I don't see any reason to remake it, honestly (and considering the storyline and plot elements, a lot of which are pretty specific to the British parliamentary system, I don't really see how they can be made to work in an American context).
Have you seen the original? Because if not you don't exactly have a basis of comparison, either, do you?
whathehell
(29,067 posts)especially with the great Kevin Spacey in the lead.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I have seen all three of the original series and they rocked. Sometimes films need to be translated for different audiences and markets.
How many versions of Romeo and Juliette are there?
There is also the possibility that the series is showing its age starting in the 1990s so things may appear dated in the original; which doesn't bother me...I loved Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Sir Alec Guinness.
My heart will always be with evil Francis Ewan Urquhart aka Ian Richardson, but some may be able to see the story from an American perspective and keep it living where they might not find the original so appealing.
There is an exception to this rule regarding the Millennium series trilogy, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo etc., and why a series of movies that were just created can't be enjoyed simply because they were dubbed or subtitled. It this instance the need to recreate the movies smells of opportunism just to rake in a little more at the box office. Noomi Rapace, like Ian Richardson, is an excellent actor and has a presence that should not be overlooked.
I would suggest that anybody that has seem the remakes of either of these two works, House of Cards and the Millennium series, to check out the originals.
They are pretty good.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)along with the ill-fated remakes of "Life on Mars" (much edgier and more delightfully raunchy wisecracks in the original British version, not to mention that the main character was a bland nobody compared to John Sims) and "Prime Suspect" (with a too-young-and-attractive Maria Bello, when part of the point of the original was that Jane Tennant's personal life was a mess, and Helen Mirren was allowed to look like a chain-smoking alcoholic and become more and more haggard in each series).
EastKYLiberal
(429 posts)TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)And can you watch each episode more than once?
Like if two people are in the house and want to watch at different times?
Thanks in advance.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I am pretty certain you can stream it through Roku, all of the modern game consoles can stream it, you can stream it through a computer, an iPad, I can even stream it to my phone. They have made a Netflix app for nearly all of the modern electronic devices, a lot of newer television sets even have a Netflix app built right into the TV. If you own any modern electronic media devices you probably have a way to stream it.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)Some Blu-Ray players and newer TVs let you stream Netflix, but you do have to be a subscriber ($7.99 per month).
I dropped cable and now do most of my watching over the air (PBS) or on Netflix, Hulu Plus, or Acorn TV (a rotating selection of British/Canadian/Australian programming, some of which has been shown on PBS, much of which has not).
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I do have a roku box and I've subscribed to Acorn TV
as well.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)other than the account I paid monthly for years ago to get DVDs in the mail. I wasn't fond of that program and haven't looked back. I understand that things have changed but have no idea of how it works.
Do you need to be a paying member or can you pay to rent one movie at a time? Any suggestions/instructions would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)If you want to see the show you might be able to get a free month sample which would give you enough time to watch the show and then cancel after the month if you don't want to continue.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)From the few ads I've seen it looks like a show I would like. With your endorsement it has become a must see (damn you)!! Kidding!
Now my only reservation is, even if I can get a month free, I'm afraid I'll end up keeping it - adding to my already exorbitant bill for home entertainment. I signed up for a trial period of HBO (at a greatly reduced price) last year, just to watch Game Change. Now, at full price, I can't give it up. Lol.
Well, I'm off to sign up. Thank you again!! (I think)
NBachers
(17,110 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Have to go now and watch the 2nd episode.
And maybe I'll be able to squeeze in the 3rd one too before bed - LOL
Or maybe I'll be up all night until the sun comes up
DakotaLady
(246 posts)I too watched Friday night. I only watched episode one ... want to stretch out my viewing. May watch two in a row when the Super Bowl is on.
I never read the book by Michael Dobbs but did watch the BBC adaptation when it was featured in 1990.
Good then and good now. Kevin Spacey is a marvelous actor and this could well be on his top-ten list.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Gin
(7,212 posts)Gonna watch this new show...even if it is a remake...
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)kind fantasyland view of politics where reality is ignored in favor of some noble thought of how things should work. I don't know what is so appealing about ignoring the fact that people are flawed, including the people on your own side.
While there are varying degrees in everyone, most people are much more like John Edwards than Jefferson Smith.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)It came to me in an email from Netflix that it was now available, and I just clicked and it started running on my laptop. I am signed up for the program with Netflix with 3CD's at a time and unlimited live watching on computer. I was afraid to turn it off last night, for fear I could not come back on in the middle, but I believe I can. I imagine you have be signed up with Netflix to watch live on line in order to receive it.
My review: wonderful plot and acting; but Kevin Spacey (one of my favorite actors, by the way) just does not compare favorably to the deliciously evil character starring in the original British House of Cards. But I give the movie as a whole 5 stars.
ananda
(28,862 posts)I watched the first two eppys last night.
More today. Woohoo!
The only problem is that I hate the wife more than I hate Francis.
And I can't figure out what she's up to with that charity, but I know it's pure evil.
(The subtlety in developing the wife in the Brit version was a major plus ... along
with the Shakespeare, particularly Macbeth ... both missing in this version. It's still good, though.)
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)I will check it out!
Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)Ian Richardson was gobsmackingly BRILLIANT as Francis Urquhart. Loved him! "You might very well think that. I could not possibly comment."
I may try the US remake, but I imagine it will be hard for me to remove the original version from my head and not try to compare the two.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)One of the late greats among the British actors.
He's also excellent in the original Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy with Alec Guinness.
ananda
(28,862 posts)Including the writer!
That show was absolutely brilliant!
The USA show is good, but not in the same class for sure.
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)HOUSE was a BBC miniseries in the UK in the 90's based on a novel by Michael Dobbs and adapted by Andrew Davies.
This US series by Netflix is an adaptation of that series by Fincher and Willimon.
It was not "created" by them.
ancianita
(36,058 posts)It kicks ass!
gulliver
(13,181 posts)Indykatie
(3,696 posts)I have watched 3 episodes so far and will pace my viewing so I have something to look forward to watching for a week.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I hope it gets picked up somewhere on cable cuz I don't have Netflix and I can't afford any more entertainment venues.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)I know that everyone is talking about the British show - but THIS SHOW is totally American and as good as 'The Newsroom'
It's a MUST SEE