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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 09:36 AM Feb 2013

PSA: If it comes from the following, it's fake news; satire.

The Onion
Daily Current
Andy Borowitz
Cracked (likely)
Landover Baptist Church

I'm sure the list can be added to.

I think if people just clicked the link and checked out a given posted story, it would quickly become apparent what is and what is not from a satire source.

As for the use of the sarcasm smilie thing, I used to think the use of it was silly. Given the murkiness of some sarcastic posts, I've changed my mind. Its use forestalls misunderstanding. Oh, and some things just don't work as sarcasm.

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PSA: If it comes from the following, it's fake news; satire. (Original Post) cali Feb 2013 OP
The Onion? Wait...I thought... joeunderdog Feb 2013 #1
hyper-real. cali Feb 2013 #2
Blast form the past: "U.S. satire tricks Beijing paper" KurtNYC Feb 2013 #14
It is real sometimes krispos42 Feb 2013 #21
I am an old fart, but I don't like seeing that shit in GD MADem Feb 2013 #3
I can understand that, but sometimes political satire- if well done- cali Feb 2013 #4
Thing is, I haven't seen much of the "well done" stuff--just dumb stuff that makes DU look like it MADem Feb 2013 #5
It's rare that satire is so well done that the secondary message is clear Sheepshank Feb 2013 #6
Most of the fun of politics comes from the humor! backscatter712 Feb 2013 #28
I like the cartoons just fine--it's quite clear what they are. MADem Feb 2013 #29
Also, FOX news, Daily Mail UK & Freewood Post JaneyVee Feb 2013 #7
New York Post, Washington Times & CNS Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #8
From the UK: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #9
Everything except The Guardian! Ian Iam Feb 2013 #26
Message auto-removed odiumestpuritas Feb 2013 #10
And some of those are actually funny, as well. (n/t) klook Feb 2013 #11
I have never encountered anything from the Landover Baptist Church etherealtruth Feb 2013 #12
It is very funny. cali Feb 2013 #15
You just made my day! n/t Ligyron Feb 2013 #20
Swift, Plato, Orwell, Bierce, and Aristophanes Coyotl Feb 2013 #13
It would be a nice gesture if the OP added (satire) in the heading. eom Frustratedlady Feb 2013 #16
Do you click every link on every story? SCVDem Feb 2013 #17
lol. There isn't even cell phone service where I live. cali Feb 2013 #23
The Daily Currant Raster Feb 2013 #18
agree that satire doesn't belong in GD CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #19
only okay on April 1 lutefisk Feb 2013 #22
agreed. Sorry to do this to you... CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #25
Trust me - even butter can't rescue lutefisk from itself. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #27
Sounds awful! Will be sure to avoid:-) n/t CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #30
Ironic Times IDemo Feb 2013 #24
I've no problem with satire. blogslut Feb 2013 #31

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
14. Blast form the past: "U.S. satire tricks Beijing paper"
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 11:27 AM
Feb 2013
Readers of the Beijing Evening News, the capital's largest-circulation newspaper, learned this week that the U.S. Congress had threatened to move out of Washington unless a fancy new Capitol was built.

"If we want to stay competitive, we need to upgrade," House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt, a Missouri Democrat, was quoted as saying. "Look at the British Parliament. Look at the Vatican. . . . Without modern facilities, they've been having big problems attracting top talent."
...
The Onion parody featured an architect's rendering of a proposed futuristic Capitol complete with a retractable dome, a "Dancing Waters fountain" and "55 more luxury boxes than the current building." The Evening News reproduced the entire illustration without crediting the Onion. There wasn't even a caption explaining what the drawing was.


http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/U-S-satire-tricks-Beijing-paper-Satire-fools-2829911.php

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. I am an old fart, but I don't like seeing that shit in GD
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 09:58 AM
Feb 2013

It's really more "lounge material." Or HUMOR. We do have a HUMOR group, it's under-utilized.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. I can understand that, but sometimes political satire- if well done-
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:12 AM
Feb 2013

can make a sharp political point better than anything else.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. Thing is, I haven't seen much of the "well done" stuff--just dumb stuff that makes DU look like it
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:19 AM
Feb 2013

has membership that can't tell a fake news story from a real one. And because people sometimes don't click the link, it does look that way at times. Sometimes I get the impression that the posters of this junk are playing the "too clever by half" game. I'm less than impressed.

We're not quite at the "KIM JONG UN IS SEXIEST MAN ALIVE" point, but people have been conned because there's no identification by the posters that the thing posted is satire.

That Ann Coulter and the Black Pilot story was just tasteless racism. We know Coulter is a jerk, I should think there's no need to make up anything about her to drive the point home.

And we do have a HUMOR group....why not use it?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
6. It's rare that satire is so well done that the secondary message is clear
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:22 AM
Feb 2013

almost always I'm pissed off that I have wasted my time reading articles that are more than 3 lines long.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
28. Most of the fun of politics comes from the humor!
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:13 PM
Feb 2013

Editorial cartoons are as old as the Republic, and I'm a big fan of satire sites like the Onion. We all laugh at Stephen Colbert, do we not?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. I like the cartoons just fine--it's quite clear what they are.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:17 PM
Feb 2013

Same deal with Colbert--there's no mystery about what his schtick is.

But I don't care for the "too clever by half" habit of posting something from that (lousy, if you ask me) Daily Currant without a notation that it is satire.

These posts are invariably followed by people saying things like "Oh, that's outrageous..." or "There oughta be a law..." or "How can he/she get away with that?"

That's interdispersed with a dozen posts saying "No, no--it's satire" "Click the link--it's bad satire..." etc. ad nauseum.

If it's going to go into GD, it should be prefaced with a great big SATIRE caveat.

Otherwise, all it's doing is chain-jerking some of our, er, less attentive members. That makes the place kinda suck, IMO.

Response to cali (Original post)

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
12. I have never encountered anything from the Landover Baptist Church
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 11:24 AM
Feb 2013
http://landoverbaptist.org/

If unaware of its existence ... check it out ... it's great!
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
17. Do you click every link on every story?
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:28 PM
Feb 2013

Especially on a Smartphone when most times you're in a hurry or are just killing a few minutes.

Thanks for the list.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
23. lol. There isn't even cell phone service where I live.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:03 PM
Feb 2013

and no, I don't click on every link, but I do click links to stories that seem rather fantastic.

CitizenPatriot

(3,783 posts)
19. agree that satire doesn't belong in GD
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:38 PM
Feb 2013

mostly because it is hard to tell from reality these days due to GOP bs.

I've noticed a lot of progressives falling for it, and posting it as real news on FB and elsewhere which only makes us look like teabaggers. Yes, humor makes a point better than straight news sometimes, but it has to be denoted as such or we're going to have people running around screaming about things that never happened.

CitizenPatriot

(3,783 posts)
25. agreed. Sorry to do this to you...
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:58 PM
Feb 2013

sure you get it a lot but, from "Drop Dead Gorgeous":

Brett Clemmens: [Becky has noticed Brett gawping at Amber, who's working in the cafeteria, so she's dropped her lunch tray in the basin, splattering Amber] Oh man... you got some lutefisk in your hair.
Amber Atkins: [cheerfully] Then it must be Wednesday.
[cutaway to Mount Rose American Teen Princess 1945, doing her librarian job]
Iona Hildebrandt: Lutefisk is codfish that's been salted and soaked in lye for a week or so. It's best with lots of butter.



 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
27. Trust me - even butter can't rescue lutefisk from itself.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 03:29 PM
Feb 2013

I've had it - just once. When my sister returned from her year as a foreign exchange student in Sweden she inflicted it on us. No one in the family could eat more than a bite or two of it. Not even my dad, who'd eat just about anything.

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