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So Barring An Unexpected Downturn In The Economy President Obama Is Reelected. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2012 OP
But what if he's a secret undercover half-black Republican? Ever think about that? HopeHoops Jan 2012 #1
So far he has governed like an undercover Republican, JDPriestly Jan 2012 #3
I consider him to be a nice balance. He's intelligent and rational. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #4
What about an 'expected' downturn? Owlet Jan 2012 #2
I don't think so. randome Jan 2012 #6
It's going to take everything we've got customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #5
Great reply. great white snark Jan 2012 #7
Hard Work Is Necessary But It Doesn't Alter The Fundamental Structure Of The Race DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2012 #8
If the economy can be fairly painted customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #18
I don't think a downturn would change it either. People understand the recession is going to last RB TexLa Jan 2012 #9
The Recession Ended In 2009 DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2012 #12
That's a pretty bold proclamation... SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #13
My Girlfriend And I Are Both Out Of Work But That Doesn't Alter The State Of Facts And Evidence DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2012 #14
We have a jobs recession but technically we are not in a real recession based on GDP. DCBob Jan 2012 #15
The Recovery Is Painfully Slow, Especially If You Are Not Benefiting From It. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2012 #17
If economists were the only ones with the vote customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #20
Again, There's Still Lots Of Pain In The Land DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2012 #21
May that trend continue. n/t customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #22
you don't think Romney will convince people he can make the country wealthy JI7 Jan 2012 #10
Not A Plurality Or Majority DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2012 #11
Only if Romney loses to Gingrich. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #16
I Agree But Barring A Downturn He's Still The Favorite Against Any Of Those Clowns DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2012 #19

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. So far he has governed like an undercover Republican,
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:17 PM
Jan 2012

but at least he is the kindest, gentlest of the lot -- unless you are a whistleblower.

Owlet

(1,248 posts)
2. What about an 'expected' downturn?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jan 2012

Lotsa folks seem to think we're headed that way, largely due to Europe's inability to deal with sovereign debt. Expected or unexpected, the sitting President is at risk.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. I don't think so.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:45 PM
Jan 2012

Even with a downturn, I think the Republicans have overplayed their obstructionist hands so badly that I think Obama's popularity would still win out.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. It's going to take everything we've got
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jan 2012

and we've got to take nothing for granted. The economy has shown only marginal improvement lately, we have to get a lot of people on board to see that there's something in it for them to vote this time around, too.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
7. Great reply.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:51 PM
Jan 2012

I'm tired of these "cakewalk win" and "no effort needed" suggestions. They are VERY irresponsible IMHO.

It will, as you state, take lots of hard work from lots of people.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Hard Work Is Necessary But It Doesn't Alter The Fundamental Structure Of The Race
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:55 PM
Jan 2012

Presidents running for reelection in good or improving economies tend to fare well...

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
18. If the economy can be fairly painted
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:17 PM
Jan 2012

as looking good or improving, we need to make sure that perception favors us all the way down the ballot, as well. It doesn't help us a lot if people decide that Obama is OK, Newt or Mitt are just too scary, and allow Rethuglicans to win at the House or Senate level just because they don't give a damn about who the President has to work with in a second term.

Worse, there are those in non-swing states who know that their vote doesn't matter for President, but they perceive an Obama win, and vote for Repukes to gridlock Congress for him.

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
9. I don't think a downturn would change it either. People understand the recession is going to last
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:57 PM
Jan 2012

a lot longer.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
13. That's a pretty bold proclamation...
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jan 2012

Care to back that up? I know a great many people out of work who would disagree with you.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. My Girlfriend And I Are Both Out Of Work But That Doesn't Alter The State Of Facts And Evidence
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:08 PM
Jan 2012

The recession officially ended in June 2009, according to the Business Cycle Dating Committee of the National Bureau of Economic Research, the official arbiter of such dates.

As many economists had expected, this official end date makes the most recent downturn the longest since World War II. This recent recession, having begun in December 2007, lasted 18 months. Until now the longest postwar recessions were those of 1973-5 and 1981-2, which each lasted 16 months.

The newly-declared end-date to the recession also confirms what many had suspected: The 2007-9 recession was the deepest on record since the Great Depression, at least in terms of job losses.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/the-recession-has-officially-ended/

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. We have a jobs recession but technically we are not in a real recession based on GDP.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:10 PM
Jan 2012

which is the way most economists define a recession. GDP has been in positive territory for over 2 years straight. A technical recession is defined as 2 straight quarters of negative GDP.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. The Recovery Is Painfully Slow, Especially If You Are Not Benefiting From It.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:14 PM
Jan 2012

But it is a recovery nonetheless.

Let's give President Obama some credit.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
20. If economists were the only ones with the vote
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:19 PM
Jan 2012

Barack Obama would see a landslide. But it's how voters define the true end (or an approaching one) of a recession that determines the final outcome of an election.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
21. Again, There's Still Lots Of Pain In The Land
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jan 2012

But polls indicate people are feeling a little better about the economy and Barack Obama's handling of it.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
10. you don't think Romney will convince people he can make the country wealthy
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:57 PM
Jan 2012

the way he himself got wealthy and vote for him ?

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
16. Only if Romney loses to Gingrich.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jan 2012

I think Obama has decent odds against Romney, but it's far from a foregone conclusion.

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