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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:35 PM Jan 2012

100 MILLION Indians go on strike 2/28/12--How about a worldwide sympathy strike?


The global labor force always wins when any of the constituent groups gets better conditions for themselves.

As wages rise and slave-labor conditions are ameliorated, the affected workers obviously benefit; but as their wages and conditions improve, the benefits to corporations of shifting jobs to low-wage places diminishes. It's a win for everyone but the 1%.
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100 MILLION Indians go on strike 2/28/12--How about a worldwide sympathy strike? (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 OP
It is well past the time for international solidarity. Citizen Worker Jan 2012 #1
Absolutely! +1000! n/t Zalatix Jan 2012 #10
Solidarity malaise Jan 2012 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #3
As a Trot, I'm always for international solidarity socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #4
Are they American Indians? undeterred Jan 2012 #5
East Indians. Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #8
Yeah, but millions of American technical jobs went to India. undeterred Jan 2012 #11
I truly understand your frustration-- Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #12
Unless you've been unemployed for a year you truly do not understand my frustration. undeterred Jan 2012 #13
I've been unemployed, I've lived for months in a car, Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #15
How does one distinguish between the American employers and the foreign employers in India? undeterred Jan 2012 #21
Who offered those Indian workers those outsourced jobs? socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #24
I don't think you're in a position to say what I would or wouldn't do. undeterred Jan 2012 #27
Is this be the Indian Spring? lunatica Jan 2012 #6
World spring, more like it, Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #9
The Worlds Largest democracy doesn't need a "Spring".. BrentWil Jan 2012 #19
I'll be traveling but will boycott all things corporate on that day nt Zorra Jan 2012 #7
There are no military forces that can face 1 million, much less 100 million people lunatica Jan 2012 #14
Please People! obliviously Jan 2012 #16
Yeah, that's going to change things...... socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #17
Don't forget to add a comment about the violent protesters in Madison Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #18
Got a Link? BrentWil Jan 2012 #20
I got the information from another thread. Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #23
Okay, read it... I would wait for more info before becoming gunho over this... BrentWil Jan 2012 #25
Absolutely agree. This is a global problem, created by the Global Corps who have managed to sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #22
They will win lovuian Jan 2012 #26

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
11. Yeah, but millions of American technical jobs went to India.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jan 2012

And now they are complaining that they aren't paid enough? Somehow I don't feel a lot of sympathy. I don't even have a job.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
12. I truly understand your frustration--
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jan 2012

but consider this: If Indian wages go up & the workweek shortens, they become more expensive in the international market. At the same time, since they are bringing home more money, their local economy flourishes & new markets for their goods spring up at home.

Meanwhile, as the Indians make goods to sell at home, they don't have as strong a need to participate in the flooding of our markets with their goods.

There are some tides that DO raise all boats, and rising conditions for all workers in the world is the pre-eminent example of such a tide. Both we & Europe proved that point conclusively in the economic boom years after WWII, when unions were strong, wages were rising, and the GI Bill provided access to higher education for masses of returning soldiers.

I do not mean to be overly laudatory about that era--it had many warts--but want to make the point of the association between rising wages and strong economies.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
13. Unless you've been unemployed for a year you truly do not understand my frustration.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:48 PM
Jan 2012

And you truly do not understand the absurdity of expecting me to feel solidarity or sympathy with people who took jobs from our American employers and now want to be paid more for them. Its still going on and it still affects me and others at DU directly.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
15. I've been unemployed, I've lived for months in a car,
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:12 PM
Jan 2012

I've wintered-over a couple of winters in a cabin in the north woods with a wood stove for heat, no electricity and no running water.

The Indian workers, like the Chinese workers, did not take your job. They had and have no power to do that. They are made to work those jobs out of desperation. I know you have read about the conditions in many Asian factories, and deplore them as much as I do. Your suffering will not be alleviated by keeping the Asian factory slaves in continued bondage; quite the opposite. A good way to keep jobs in America is to pressure the foreign employers to raise the wages and living conditions of their workers, thus making them less attractive for exploitation.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
21. How does one distinguish between the American employers and the foreign employers in India?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jan 2012

I don't think the Indian workers are pressured to take American IT jobs from American employers - they are happy to take them. And Indian workers is the subject you brought up.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
24. Who offered those Indian workers those outsourced jobs?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:52 PM
Jan 2012

Would you turn down a job from a foreign owned company that opened an IT job in this country? I daresay you wouldn't turn it down. You're blaming the wrong group for the outsourcing.

As long as the capitalists own the means of production in any field, THEY are the ones to blame for WHERE the jobs are. Not the poor schlubs (the rest of us) who just take what they can to survive. Capitalists move the jobs to where they can get the best deal for THEIR profits by screwing the working class.

If the working class WORLDWIDE realized they had more in common with each other than they have in common with the wealthy of the world, we'd ALL wind up better off. Well except for the capitalists of course.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
27. I don't think you're in a position to say what I would or wouldn't do.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:45 PM
Jan 2012

I'm not finding this line of argument persuasive at all.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. Is this be the Indian Spring?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:50 PM
Jan 2012

There sure have been an incredible number of massive protest uprising of the people in the last couple of years. This is part of it. People are tired of suffering deprivation and poverty and in this age of instant global connectivity one good uprising will quickly lead to more uprising in other places.

The 99% are uniting on a global scale.

BrentWil

(2,384 posts)
19. The Worlds Largest democracy doesn't need a "Spring"..
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:42 PM
Jan 2012

It needs moderate reforms. A "spring" would most likely lead to the election of the BJP, and that isn't the best solutions for minorities in India.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
14. There are no military forces that can face 1 million, much less 100 million people
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 07:38 PM
Jan 2012

This must strike profound fear in some people.

obliviously

(1,635 posts)
16. Please People!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jan 2012

We have an election coming up, we don't need more poop in the streets, rats, rapes and hygienic disease.
You can protest again after we win the election!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
18. Don't forget to add a comment about the violent protesters in Madison
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:39 PM
Jan 2012

under the palm trees last winter.



and the crazed union thugs.

BrentWil

(2,384 posts)
25. Okay, read it... I would wait for more info before becoming gunho over this...
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jan 2012

This seems to be a strike concerning governmental workers. The governmental bureaucracy in India is insanely corrupt and at a low level. The 2011 anti corruption movement ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Indian_anti-corruption_movement ) tried to deal with these concerns. These strikes could/may be a response to those reforms.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. Absolutely agree. This is a global problem, created by the Global Corps who have managed to
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:48 PM
Jan 2012

isolate countries from each other for so long. Boycotts worldwide of Corps who are abusing workers would be a start.

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