Well, tonight we finally saw Game Change. Holy shit.

[NRaleighLiberal]

The country - world? - dodged quite the bullet when sanity prevailed sufficiently (aided by having a most excellent candidate in our current president, of course) and McCain was defeated.....if the story portrayed in this movie is even partially true....

then all I can say is, Holy Shit!

I am surprised at how well - as in pretty accurately obnoxious and unhinged - Palin was portrayed.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

1. Shows what a "hands off" manager McCain was too, huh. Have you read the book?

unbelievably good

[russspeakeasy]

13. Just want to chime in and add, the book Game Change is

so good, I read it twice...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. me too. hope there's one coming out for the 2012 race too.

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[Sekhmets Daughter]

26. There is...

I agree the book was excellent.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. It will be all republican sleeze but can not wait !! thanks SD nt

[Sekhmets Daughter]

36. Oh, I think they'll want to cover the workings

of a winning campaign that was outspent but not outsmarted.

[jbnow]

23. Amazon has kindle Game Change at 2.98 this month

so I finally got it and am reading it now. Haven't come to Palin it it yet but did see movie recently
(when HBO was free. How cheap am I!)

I enjoying the book oh but...it is almost painful to be back there in 2008 primaries...
seemed it would ease up for general
or when he won
Never really has eased up

Glad for Bill that he got his mojo back...that was my big thought in 2012 convention but book reminds me how bad it got

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. yes ! I loved all those juicy details. Interesting about

how John Edwards was pushing everyone for VP slot.

It really is remarkable to read all that about Bill and Hillary and see how far they and their relationship with Obama has come.

They could have held a grudge and been bitter...but they let it go and that was a very smart move. It is a grand lesson
for everyone - how letting go of bitter feelings helps you in the end.

[skorpo]

54. Thanks for the price update

I just got it.

[KittyWampus]

32. McCain is a total fabrication of his manager Mark Salter. He is just a puppet, literally.

He isn't particularly intelligent or outstanding in any way.

More people need to know this.

John McCain is a mediocre person with a public persona built by Mark Salter.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. why then does he think he is God of the Military? And Lindsay is a Lesser God ? You

would think McCain, after what he went through, would hate war. But it only seemed to make him love it more.
Maybe because he isn't outstanding in any way so he clings to war shit.

[2naSalit]

53. I think it's all those meds he's on, well partly... (nt)

[NYC_SKP]

2. Can you imagine had Obama not won? Both in 2008 and 2012. OMG.

We're still on thin ice but damn if we didn't pull it off, for now.

[silvershadow]

17. No. I can't. We still have miles to go before we sleep. If GOP had won either

we would have had hemispheres to cross. I'm already praying about 2016 and 2020. I bet it takes that long (maybe longer) to undo the damage and set fully upon a better course.

[Curmudgeoness]

3. I have not seen it yet

but I know that we dodged a bullet (or two) by electing (and re-electing) Obama. I have heard about the portrayal of Palin, and all that I heard seems to be about right from what we saw of her, pre and post election.

Why are you hiding???

[NRaleighLiberal]

5. Hiding! that is how creepy watching the movie made me feel.....

just freaked me out totally, even though I presumed how things probably were behind the scenes.

[Cleita]

4. I thought they were kind to her.

Some of the live stuff she did back then was not cool. They actually did not make her look as bad as she made herself look before then.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. Agreed - they came close a few times, but did hold back.

[tblue37]

27. The movie was especially generous in its portrayal of her attitude toward her baby

and toward the rest of her family. The film presented her as a devoted mother to the baby (is her baby Trig or Tripp?), and it has her desperately wailing about how much she misses her baby. But whenever we saw her in real life, she was either handing that poor baby off to the youngest daughter or else holding him like a loaf of bread.

I never once saw her look her baby in the face or cuddle him close to her body, the way most mothers automatically handle their infants.

She just used him as a political prop, which is how she used her whole family.

But the movie made her seem to be the most devoted mother and wife, and it also made it seem as though what caused her greatest stress was that she missed her family so much because she was really just a homebody at heart.

Other than that utter BS, I though the movie was really good.

[Cleita]

42. Ron Reagan, Jr. had the best remark about the baby used as a prop.

He said the baby was passed around like a bong at the Burning Man.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. What always amazed me was that an average person would know they weren't qualified

to be VP. I always liken it to a first year med student being asked to do a heart transplant and the student
saying "Bring it on, slam dunk."

I think the movie tried to show her as thinking that the appointment was from God. "I want you to do this, Sarah." And, that was enough...no worries about the details of what she had to know because God asked her to do it.

I wish someday, she would truthfully talk about this. When she realized she was way over her head and why she didn't think that sooner 0 like the minute after she got the first phone call

[Bjorn Against]

7. I just finally saw it for the first time last weekend

I knew Sarah Palin was dumb, but damn. A VP candidate that did not know that North Korea and South Korea were two seperate nations is just sad. Julianne Moore was perfect as Sarah Palin, she was barely distinguishable from the real one.

[Tagish_Charlie]

11. But could she see Russia from her house?

[tblue37]

29. She also didn't have a clue about what the Federal Reserve is. nt

[R B Garr]

8. How did you get ahold of the movie?

I really want to see it, but I don't think my cable provider carried it, and Blockbuster didn't have it the last time I checked a few months ago. Is it out for rental now?

[NRaleighLiberal]

9. Netflix - just came available.

[R B Garr]

12. Thanks! I just called the local Blockbuster

and they said they just got it but they're all rented.

I'll be on the hunt for it this weekend!

[sad-cafe]

52. you still have a blockbuster?

all 7 of ours closed

[R B Garr]

56. yes, still have one closeby although it was due to close but hasn't yet

And there's at least one more still open a few more miles away. One of the bigger stores also somewhat close closed about a year ago. Blockbuster's now almost a bygone era.

And, they had the Game Change movie this afternoon so we picked it up. Excellent movie. I found it very credible because we saw it for ourselves how incompetent she was on a national stage. Behind the scenes, I'm sure she was every bit the ignorant shrew that the movie showed.

[sad-cafe]

57. that is cool

it was a great movie

[Samantha]

19. Yes, I am getting it from Netflix soon

It is on its way and I cannot wait.

Sam

[southernyankeebelle]

10. You should read the book. It was really good. I couldn't put it down. It also covered

a little of Obama and Clinton campaigns. However, the Palin meltdown was the best and your right. God somehow brings this country back to sanity.

[pacalo]

14. Does the book give a lot more details about her personality?

Are there scathing instances in the book that were not shown in the movie?

[southernyankeebelle]

22. Not that I remember however it goes more in the details of Obama and Clinton campaigns that

really didn't show up in the movie. I couldn't put it down. If you like the movie I think you will like the book. I know I couldn't put it down.

[pacalo]

24. I was hoping that it mentioned the infamous turkey background she used for her PR shoot

& what her handlers thought about it -- stuff like that.

[southernyankeebelle]

47. I don't think it did mention that. But it wasn't in the movie either that I can remember.

Gosh that would have been the nail in the coffin. She really made an ass of herself.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. Me either. It was one of those rare books that you didn't want to finish because it would be over.

[southernyankeebelle]

46. yes it was exactly that way. I wonder if they are going to do one on Romney race? That

would be something to read about and see.

[tblue37]

28. For that read _The Rogue._. It's quite good. nt

[tblue37]

31. FYI--I just checked Barnes and Noble's site (I have a Nook, not a Kindle.)

The ebook of Game Change is just $2.99 on B&N, as well.

[pacalo]

34. Thanks -- I'll check it out.

[Buns_of_Fire]

20. Thanks to this thread (and you), I just bought Amazon's Kindle edition (2.99!).

I might learn something, and I figure it'll give me something to do other than watch SpongeBob SquarePants all weekend.

[southernyankeebelle]

21. Well good for you. I think you'll like it. By the way I love watching SpongeBob. Am 65 and my

granddaughter and I watch it allot.

[Blue_In_AK]

16. Julianne Moore didn't quite capture Palin,

but she was close.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. I don't even think close. I was surprised she won so many awards. I thought

her accent was ridiculously bad. And her acting was stilted and very inconsistent. Tina Fey would have been 100 times better.

I did think Ed Harris as potty mouth McCain, and Woody Harrelson as Schmidt were excellent though

[Blue_In_AK]

43. Yeah, it was the accent that didn't seem real to me, too.

I really don't know what happened to Sarah once she got out on the national stage. She wasn't nearly as much of a caricature when she was governor. I guess it all went to her head.

[AngryOldDem]

18. It's an eye-opener, isn't it?

What I find amazing is that Steve Schmidt still has ANY shred of credibility. I would think Palin would have killed his career.

Have you read the book? It goes into all the campaigns -- Obama's, Clinton's, McCain's -- and it is a fascinating read.

[rdharma]

30. McCain/Palin or Romney/Ryan

I don't know which of those two combinations would have been more destructive for the country!

[NYC Liberal]

33. They are doing another one for Romney/Ryan too!

Should be excellent.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. ok, so what actor do you know who is short, buff, with blue eyes and a widow's peak? nt

[Blue_In_AK]

45. Eddie Munster on steroids?

[aaaaaa5a]

44. Remember this wasn't some movie based on the perceptions of a lefty liberal...

this story is based on what conservatives WHO WERE CLOSEST to Palin thought.

[sad-cafe]

48. was pretty eye-opening

The book talked about John Edwards and his wife as well. Some content is pretty sad

[Tom Ripley]

49. Was Julianne Moore able to ugly down as well as Charlize Theron did in Monster?

[NRaleighLiberal]

50. she essentially "Palinated". to create a different kind of monster!

[malaise]

51. She really is obnoxious and unhinged

They had no choice - loved it.

[Whisp]

55. the Woody Harrelson character is that Steve guy on MSNBC

who almost sounds normal, for one of them.

Haven't seen him lately tho.