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maximum net worth... (Original Post) dtom67 Feb 2013 OP
you're good Skittles Feb 2013 #1
no we don't. Just return the tax rates to what they were under Republican President cali Feb 2013 #2
That is a good idea. ananda Feb 2013 #11
No, we really don't. RudynJack Feb 2013 #3
I Don't Think You Have to Worry About That Ever Happening dballance Feb 2013 #4
I Don't Think You Have to Worry About That Ever Happening The CCC Feb 2013 #6
yes melm00se Feb 2013 #10
Yep. You can't have a floor without a ceiling. EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #5
Yep. You can't have a floor without a ceiling. The CCC Feb 2013 #7
That tax is on income, not wealth. tclambert Feb 2013 #8
I would like to see a maximum corporation size as well. tclambert Feb 2013 #9

ananda

(28,874 posts)
11. That is a good idea.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:05 AM
Feb 2013

The unwillingness to pay taxes is a huge part of our national corruption, along with unnecessary wars, too large a budget on the wrong things like military-defense, and so much sociopathic meanspiritedness on the part of teapers and corporocrats.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
3. No, we really don't.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:03 AM
Feb 2013

Really, we don't.

I keep reading things here that make me think "wow... that's the worst idea ever".

And then someone like you comes along to let me know there's no upper limit on dumb ideas.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
4. I Don't Think You Have to Worry About That Ever Happening
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:32 AM
Feb 2013

I can't think of a way congress could twist the Commerce Clause or their authority to tax to accomplish a max net worth. I can't think of under what provision of the Constitution they'd find the authority to do it.

The CCC

(463 posts)
6. I Don't Think You Have to Worry About That Ever Happening
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:59 AM
Feb 2013

It is not part of the Commerce Clause. Congress has the authority to tax, and at any rate they so desire. They just need the political will to do it.

While it is true Eisenhower couldn't get elected today, neither could Kennedy.

melm00se

(4,994 posts)
10. yes
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:01 AM
Feb 2013
Congress has the authority to tax


it took, however, the 16th Amendment for an income tax that did not have to be apportioned to the states by population. It also, by extension, allowed for the creation of a graduated/progressive tax system.

Taxing wealth (one of the key components of "net worth&quot would require, in my mind, a similar Constitutional Amendment which would be a struggle to get ratified. Operating without an amendment would certainly guarantee innumerable and protracted court cases and based upon the court make up of the courts, any such law would probably be struck down.
 

EastKYLiberal

(429 posts)
5. Yep. You can't have a floor without a ceiling.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:42 AM
Feb 2013

But the Eisenhower tax rates, I feel, would establish that ceiling.

The CCC

(463 posts)
7. Yep. You can't have a floor without a ceiling.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:04 AM
Feb 2013

Even under Eisenhower the rich were still rich. With an upper tax rate of 90% on a Billion Dollars. The remain 10% is still more money than most of us will ever see.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
8. That tax is on income, not wealth.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:56 AM
Feb 2013

Taxable income, not actual income. The very wealthy often increase their wealth largely by the increase in value of their investments. Net worth might increase by a billion dollars while the wealthy person pays taxes on only a few million in income he couldn't hide. Unrealized capital gains have never been taxed (except by the estate tax, the "death" tax Republicans hate so much). If they sell off an asset, the profit on the deal becomes income (realized capital gains taxed at 15%). Dividends, another big source of income for the rich, is taxed at a maximum of 15%.

I find it ironic that these forms of "unearned" income are taxed at lower rates than "earned" income (something rich people don't have much of).

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
9. I would like to see a maximum corporation size as well.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:57 AM
Feb 2013

Too big to fail? Split it up into smaller bite-size pieces.

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