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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI drank fracking fluid, says Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper
The first-term Democrat and former Denver mayor told a Senate committee on Tuesday that he actually drank a glass of fracking fluid produced by oilfield services giant Halliburton.
The fluid is made entirely of ingredients sourced from the food industry, the company says, making it safe for Mr. Hickenlooper and others to imbibe.
You can drink it. We did drink it around the table, almost rituallike, in a funny way, he told the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. It was a demonstration. theyve invested millions of dollars in what is a benign fluid in every sense
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/feb/12/colorado-gov-hickenlooper-i-drank-fracking-fluid/#.URqUq39uhQo.twitter
Ritual-like, sorta like communion? I am reminded that DDT was "so safe you could eat it."
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)and gone into the water table.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)It's one thing if you're talking about a fracking fluid that's freshly made and clean - depending on the fluid, you very well might be able to drink it.
But what's in that fluid after it's been pumped out of the ground? Heavy metals? Carcinogens? Other toxins? That's why people don't like fracking.
Also, which fracking fluid? There's endless formulations - some of which are edible, some of which aren't.
Then, there's the issues with natural gas or oil seeping into the water table (which leads to poisoned water supplies, sinks you can light on fire.)
Then there's the pollution from all the drilling and pumping equipment - diesel engines running 24/7, spills... Case in point: http://www.9news.com/news/article/316565/222/Workers-stop-fracking-fluid-leak-after-30-hours
gateley
(62,683 posts)Bennyboy
(10,440 posts)I remember Jerry Brown doing the same thing with malathion when spraying... Brown did it in public however....
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)No-No-No-No!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)denverbill
(11,489 posts)Paladin
(28,271 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Would actually drink a glass of it while pitching it to airline boardrooms to prove its non-toxicity...
(previous generations of hydraulic fluid were very dangerous and potentially fatal for aviation maintenence crews)
ret5hd
(20,516 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)whether the water is toxic, but that it is being used in this method and then stored underground.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)They put waste into the ground.
If they really were putting ingestible shit into the ground they would, you know, allow for disclosure. But because they're using toxic waste (as a side business, gotta put it somewhere), they do not want to allow disclosure.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)They wouldn't frack if it were actually toxic.
/sarcasm
Environmentalists will find very few political allies in this, I'm afraid.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)"It's purely ingestible stuff. Not poisonous at all. But we won't make them disclose and have periodic random testing, because, yaknow, they wouldn't bring it into our state if it was poisonous."
Just brilliant logic, really, I'm astounded.
panzerfaust
(2,818 posts)and deliberately inhaled its vapor for sixty seconds in order to show how safe it was. He said he could do this every day for a year without ill effects.
Shortly thereafter, he then vanished for a year whilst he was treated for lead-poisoning (the second time he had been so treated).
Interestingly, he - Thomas Midgley - also invented the first chlorofluorocarbon, Freon.
This single person may well be responsible for more deaths and environmental destruction than all the wars of the twentieth century: death and destruction which continues to this day.
Look him up.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)That's exactly what this reminded me of.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)I scanned Midgley's bio on wiki. His death was ironic if not karmic.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)he will never have to worry about colon problems. He won't have one.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)indie9197
(509 posts)but many of them contain a biocide to kill or prevent bacteria growth. Here is the MSDS of one of the two common biocides:
http://www.closedsystemlabs.com/Pdf%27s/MSDS%20-%20Quaternary%20Ammonium%20Chloride.pdf
Usually used in concentrations of one or two gallons per 1000 gallons fracking fluid
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)WINDSOR - Oil-laden fracking fluid gushed from an oil well near Fort Collins for nearly 30 hours before it was stopped Tuesday afternoon.
A hydraulic failure around 9:30 a.m. Monday caused a piece of equipment to fall onto a valve and break it at the drilling site 4 miles east of Fort Collins. A horizontal stream of green-tinted fluid flowed from the valve for nearly a day and half before crews gained control of it.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Reminds me of one of my favorite lines from Clerks
"My girlfriend sucked 37 @#cks!...." " In a row?..."
Johonny
(20,880 posts)says the person purposely misleading the conversation...
maryland native
(48 posts)He drank the petroleum industry's Kool Aid...
kentauros
(29,414 posts)"All mushrooms are edible at least once."
Omaha Steve
(99,703 posts)http://www.marcellus-shale.us/fracking.htm
Who wants to drink this?
Hydrochloric Acid
Hazmat placard 1789
What some of the "one-half of one percent"
actually looks like
SOME OF THE CHEMICALS USED
Source of chemical list: FracFocus
Chemical descriptions: Multiple sources
TRADE NAME PURPOSE INGREDIENTS CHEMICAL ABSTRACT NUMBER (CAS #)
Acid, Hydrochloric 15% Acid Hydrochloric Acid 7647-01-0
Concentrated hydrochloric acid (fuming hydrochloric acid) forms acidic mists. Both the mist and the solution have a corrosive effect on human tissue, with the potential to damage respiratory organs, eyes, skin, and intestines.
WIC-641L Iron Control Agent Citric Acid 77-92-9
WAI-251LC Corrosion Inhibitor Ethylene Glycol 107-21-1
Ethylene glycol has been shown to be toxic to humans and is also toxic to domestic pets such as cats and dogs. Ethylene glycol is a toxic, colorless, odorless, almost nonvolatile liquid with a sweet taste and is occasionally consumed by children and dogs for its sweetness. Following ingestion the symptoms of poisoning follow a 3 step progression starting with intoxication and vomiting, before causing metabolic acidosis, cardiovascular dysfunction, and finally acute kidney failure.
Dimethyl Formamide 68-12-2
Dimethylformamide (DMF) has been linked to cancer in humans, and it is thought to cause birth defects. In some sectors of industry women are banned from working with DMF.
*Proprietary* *N/A*
Decanol 112-30-1
Decanol causes a high irritability to skin and eyes, when splashed into the eyes it can cause permanent damage. Inhalation and ingestion can be harmful; it is harmful in the environment.
Isopropanol (Isopropyl Alcohol, Propan-2-ol) 67-63-0
Octanol 111-87-5
2-Butoxyethanol (Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether) 111-76-2
Moderate respiratory exposure to 2-butoxyethanol often results in irritation of mucous membranes of the eyes, nose and throat. Heavy exposure via respiratory, dermal or oral routes can lead to hypotension, metabolic acidosis, hemolysis, pulmonary edema and coma. Acute exposure to high levels of the glycol ethers in humans results in narcosis, pulmonary edema, and severe liver and kidney damage. Chronic exposure to the glycol ethers in humans results in fatigue, lethargy, nausea, anorexia, tremor, and anemia. 2-Butoxyethanol has come under scrutiny in Canada.
EC6110A Anti-Bacterial Agent Glutaraldehyde 111-30-8
The following health effects have been reported in hospital workers exposed to glutaraldehyde: Throat and lung irritation; Asthma, asthma-like symptoms, and breathing difficulty; Nose irritation, sneezing, and wheezing; Nosebleed; Burning eyes and conjunctivitis; Rash-contact and/or allergic dermatitis; Staining of the hands (brownish or tan); Hives; Headaches and Nausea.
Quaternary Ammonium Compounds N/A
Quaternary ammonium compounds can display a range of health effects, amongst which are mild skin and respiratory irritation up to severe caustic burns on skin and gastro-intestinal lining (depending on concentration), gastro-intestinal symptoms (e.g., nausea and vomiting), coma, convulsions, hypotension and death.
Ethanol 64-17-5
EC6629 Scale Inhibitor *No hazardous components* *None*
WFR-61LA Friction Reducer Petroleum Distillate Hydrotreated Light 64742-47-8
Distillates (Petroleum), Hydrotreated Light can cause dizziness, headache, drowsiness, nausea, unconsciousness from inhalation; and cough, diarrhea, sore throat, and vomiting from ingestion. Swallowing the liquid may cause aspiration into the lungs with the risk of chemical pneumonitis. NIOSH states that it is harmful to aquatic organisms. The substance may cause effects on the central nervous system.
Sodium Chloride 7647-14-5
Alcohols ethoxylated
C12-16 68551-12-2
Quarternary Ammonium Chloride 12125-02-9
Quaternary ammonium compounds can display a range of health effects, amongst which are mild skin and respiratory irritation up to severe caustic burns on skin and gastro-intestinal lining (depending on concentration), gastro-intestinal symptoms (e.g., nausea and vomiting), coma, convulsions, hypotension and death.
WGA-15L Gelling Agent Petroleum Distillate Hydrotreated Light 64742-47-8
Distillates (Petroleum), Hydrotreated Light can cause dizziness, headache, drowsiness, nausea, unconsciousness from inhalation; and cough, diarrhea, sore throat, and vomiting from ingestion. Swallowing the liquid may cause aspiration into the lungs with the risk of chemical pneumonitis. NIOSH states that it is harmful to aquatic organisms. The substance may cause effects on the central nervous system.
*Proprietary* Polymer *N/A*
WBK-134 Breaker Ammonium Persulfate 7727-54-0
Ammonium Persulfate airborne dust may be irritating to eyes, nose, lungs, throat and skin upon contact. Exposure to high levels of dust may cause difficulty in breathing in sensitive persons. This product has moderate oral toxicity and sensitive persons may develop dermatitis and asthma.
Chemicals in Natural Gas Operations
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)So, if I aim a fire hose at his house and blow his windows out, can I argue that "it was just water!" as my defense?
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)You'll develop a taste for fire water.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)politicat
(9,808 posts)Because dude, Hick, are you trying to give him a title bump?
Other things "sourced from the food industry" that can kill:
Lye (used in pretzels, tripe, meat processing)
Lime (used in corn processing)
Ricin (byproduct of castor oil production, deadliest poison known)
Cyanide (hello, almonds)
Hard Assets
(274 posts)He's currently being considered for Secretary of Labor by Obama. I'm not sure what's going on there...
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Hard Assets
(274 posts)Hickenlooper does not belong on the Governor's seat.
We can find someone better. Only because he owned a beer distillery (Wynkoop Brewery) made him a popular guy around the state.
If he finds the fracking fluid safe to drink, the I challenge him to put it on his distillery and see what happens.