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(46,347 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:21 PM Feb 2013

Latest "screw you" from authorities regarding former fugitive Dorner...

Now there is talk the people who led cops to the asshole won't get any reward money.

A legal loophole could prevent good Samaritans, instrumental in ending the manhunt for a fugitive ex-cop accused of killing four people, from claiming more than $1 million in reward money because Christopher Dorner died and was not captured.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/legal-loophole-1m-dorner-reward-paid/story?id=18506414

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Latest "screw you" from authorities regarding former fugitive Dorner... (Original Post) Archae Feb 2013 OP
Sounds like they gave themselves an out from the get go. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #1
But Dorner died rocktivity Feb 2013 #2
Sounds like speculation at this point. Probably worth $1 million to avoid the bad geek tragedy Feb 2013 #3
He may not have been captured alive ... Trajan Feb 2013 #4
I think Dorner's estate should pay for the millions in overtime it cost graham4anything Feb 2013 #5
yeah ... his kids should become indentured ... Trajan Feb 2013 #6
When they arrested Bernie Madoff, his whole family was forced to pay up. graham4anything Feb 2013 #7
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #8
Dorner cost the state tens of millions. Why should the taxpayer pay? The perp should. graham4anything Feb 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #10
If not for a gun and a bullet in the street, none of this would happen. graham4anything Feb 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #17
How? graham4anything Feb 2013 #19
where did you read that he had kids? shanti Feb 2013 #21
No one should profit off these hideous crimes Dorner committed. graham4anything Feb 2013 #22
actually it was post #6 that first said he had kids now that I looked at it. graham4anything Feb 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #23
the kids thing came from poster in post 6. I never said he had kids til after that. graham4anything Feb 2013 #26
If he left no assets and no heirs, there's not geek tragedy Feb 2013 #28
He was only a terrorist if you are an authoritarian cop-lover. MindPilot Feb 2013 #27
Yeah, like Monica Quan, her fiance, the guy he carjacked, the couple geek tragedy Feb 2013 #29
That is funny as DORNER WAS A COP. graham4anything Feb 2013 #30
Nor am I. MindPilot Feb 2013 #25
Yep. Some crazy ass shit. jsr Feb 2013 #32
I don't think it is the same. LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #13
Dorner had no children, so I don't know what people are geek tragedy Feb 2013 #15
Because 1. Madoff STOLE money Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #31
Dorner had no children. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #12
What estate? Virtually no assets, no heirs. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #11
This seems to be standard procedure for rewards... NV Whino Feb 2013 #14
"Legal loophole"? "WTF"? You honestly believed LAPD wanted him alive so that he could Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #18
The LAPD doubtlessly wanted him to stop roaming free geek tragedy Feb 2013 #20

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
2. But Dorner died
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:25 PM
Feb 2013

because the police killed him.

The people who led them to the cabin they burned down are the ones who should get the reward.


rocktivity

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. Sounds like speculation at this point. Probably worth $1 million to avoid the bad
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:27 PM
Feb 2013

PR that would result from this kind of weaseling.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
4. He may not have been captured alive ...
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:28 PM
Feb 2013

(Applause from the DU lynch mob) ...

BUT ... he was captured ....

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
6. yeah ... his kids should become indentured ...
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:39 PM
Feb 2013

they should work off that million dollar debt in about 20 years ...

LOVE the DU Law and Order types ... but I won't turn my back to you .... ever ...

I've gotten an education in DU this week ... a heartless, bloodthirsty bunch ...

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
7. When they arrested Bernie Madoff, his whole family was forced to pay up.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:41 PM
Feb 2013

same here.

They made Bernie Madoff's wife give up her money.

Civil suits are in order from anyone who Dorner's actions killed.

Response to graham4anything (Reply #7)

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
9. Dorner cost the state tens of millions. Why should the taxpayer pay? The perp should.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:50 PM
Feb 2013

This guy was a terrorist. Not someone to be admired.

The people to feel sorry for are the families of the officers and others that were killed,
all because of Dorner, the terrorist.

Every single penny from any book, movie, whatever should go to repay this.
There should be no profit from these hideous crimes he committed.

(In NYC they have the Son of Sam laws for just this purpose).

Response to Post removed (Reply #8)

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
16. If not for a gun and a bullet in the street, none of this would happen.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:59 PM
Feb 2013

If not his family, make the NRA pay for it.

How can anyone idolize Dorner?

the funny thing is, Dorner IS A COP. Yet the people idolizing him don't like cops.
Yet Dorner is a cop.

NO he is not someone to idolize.

The 99.99999999999999% are going to pay for the expense because one terrorist did this,
all because he had access to guns and bullets.

Again-Dorner is a terrorist.
It would be like idolizing the coward who killed the kids when he did Oklahoma City.

How many more would he have killed if police looked the other way?

(note-not saying anyone specific is idolizing him, just the people that are).

Response to graham4anything (Reply #16)

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
19. How?
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:12 PM
Feb 2013

He is a terrorist.
NOT to be idolized.

I read he had kids, guess the alt-media got that wrong too, like 99% of the crap they write
trying to invoke sympathy for this guy.

When in the future there are talks about bad cops, Dorner is now the cover person for them.
I can't recall any cop at any time doing what he did to so many people.

Vigilantes should not be tolerated, like the cops on Danzinger Bridge found out.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
21. where did you read that he had kids?
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:16 PM
Feb 2013

i've only heard that he had none. in fact, in his manifesto he stated that he never had a chance to have a family (or words to that affect).

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
22. No one should profit off these hideous crimes Dorner committed.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:23 PM
Feb 2013

No one should get rich off of this.

Make any movie or book pay the familes who were hurt, and the city of Los angeles back.

Why should someone profit off of this?

They normally freeze all assets of terrorists. So why should this be different?

and he was labeled a terrorist.

Shame is anyone even knows his name. Just gave him the fame he wanted.

Like the Son of Sam.I see no difference between them or Tim McV.the Coward.
(All profits from anything related to the Son of Sams crimes went to the family).

Response to graham4anything (Reply #19)

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
26. the kids thing came from poster in post 6. I never said he had kids til after that.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:35 PM
Feb 2013

so your blame is going to the wrong person.
I just re-read the whole thread and it was only after post 6 that anyone brought kids
into the picture.

My word was his estate or the NRA.

It would be a good thing if the NRA is liable directly for every single gun death and bullet death.

Without a gun, this wouldn't have happened.


but post 6 brought kids into this argument, not me.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
27. He was only a terrorist if you are an authoritarian cop-lover.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:36 PM
Feb 2013

All but a handlful of civilians in Socal had absolutely nothing to fear from Dorner. Law enforcement, on the other hand, terrorize innocent people every day.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
29. Yeah, like Monica Quan, her fiance, the guy he carjacked, the couple
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:38 PM
Feb 2013

he kidnapped.

Not to mention his goal of murdering spouses and children of LAPD.

And, of course, the cops he did murder had wives and children and mothers and fathers who have suffered horribly at his hands.

What would you call him, a Freedom Righter?

The couple that called the cops, are they victims or collaborators in your book?

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
30. That is funny as DORNER WAS A COP.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:40 PM
Feb 2013

It's like people idolizing James Bond or #6 and forgetting they were super spy assasssins in the first place.

Dorner=COP.

If one don't like cops, then how can one like Dorner who WAS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE a cop?

BTW, I myself don't like bad cops.
I don't stereotype and say all cops are bad.
There are many good ones.

Others just work a horrible job with no respect and get a paycheck.

Dorner was a BAD COP.

A good cop doesn't kill people.
But a terrribly bad one does(like the cops on Danzinger Bridge.)

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
13. I don't think it is the same.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:55 PM
Feb 2013

Madoff distributed his stole money to his wife and kids and they benefited from his criminal behavior. No way should children who did not benefit should be held liable for it. I'm really surprised you see such a thing as justice.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. Dorner had no children, so I don't know what people are
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:58 PM
Feb 2013

arguing about. Pretty much everything of value he did own is a firearm and will have been confiscated.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
31. Because 1. Madoff STOLE money
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:42 PM
Feb 2013

and 2. Once things started falling apart he started hiding it under the names of family members....

I refuse to believe you're dense enough to compare the two cases...

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
14. This seems to be standard procedure for rewards...
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:58 PM
Feb 2013

"Leading to capture and conviction." It not just a loophole, it's a double loophole.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
18. "Legal loophole"? "WTF"? You honestly believed LAPD wanted him alive so that he could
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:09 PM
Feb 2013

discuss LAPD corruption with the entire world watching, or that the reward was nothing more than a way to flush him out so they could kill him (never having intended to pay in the first place having stated the conditions of the reward)?

You friend do not know LAPD whatsoever, or Mayor Villain. Please check back in the Dorner threads to find those of us who said from the first minute that they wanted him dead. Four people shot up (64 bullets at two women) who did not resemble him whatsoever...zero attempt to make a positive ID...shoot first and find out later? Those of us who know LAPD recognized this as a clear trend, as standard operating procedure. They are a gang who protect and serve themselves, not others. Media were told to stop broadcasting and to even stop tweeting, then sheriffs put seven fire-spewing gas grenades into a small wooden cabin, shouting over and over to burn it, calmly stating on the scanner "we have a fire" and not allowing fire crews anywhere near it until only ashes remained. Then actually claiming they did not intend to start a fire, while I significantly doubt anyone on the scanner expressed worry about engulfing flames.

Sorry, but this is just part of their regular assholery and smug self-protection at the expense of the public. I wanted to believe in the social contract involving police, but repeated experience with LAPD and LA city hall completely burned out of my life, that particular bit of self-deceit.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. The LAPD doubtlessly wanted him to stop roaming free
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:12 PM
Feb 2013

while armed and dangerous.

Everyone on the planet knew that Dorner would wind up dead. He pretty much declared his intent to fight to the death in his manifesto. hard to blame the LAPD for the death of a murderer on a suicide run.

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