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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:23 AM Feb 2013

Cardinal Mahony, deeply implicated in child-rape cover-up, forgives those angry at him for it.



Cardinal Mahony, who is as deeply implicated in the cover-up of child rape under his authority as Boston’s Cardinal Law, writes the following on his own blog:

In the past several days, I have experienced many examples of being humiliated. In recent days, I have been confronted in various places by very unhappy people. I could understand the depth of their anger and outrage–at me, at the Church, at about injustices that swirl around us.

Thanks to God’s special grace, I simply stood there, asking God to bless and forgive them.


He is forgiving the victims of child-rape, and those who speak up for them? Words fail. Anger overwhelms me.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/02/16/proud-of-his-humility/







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Cardinal Mahony, deeply implicated in child-rape cover-up, forgives those angry at him for it. (Original Post) cleanhippie Feb 2013 OP
Oh the poor victim malaise Feb 2013 #1
At what point does part of that label fall onto those that continue to support this church? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #2
Excellent question malaise Feb 2013 #5
They're just on the same mental plane as those that joined the Hitler Youth. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #13
When I said at work that the Pope is a pedophile enabler lunatica Feb 2013 #23
Respond with "your faith insults my intelligence." cleanhippie Feb 2013 #24
What I should tell her is her condoning what the Pope does is what's offensive lunatica Feb 2013 #27
That works too. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #28
"At about injustices that swirl around us" GP6971 Feb 2013 #3
No different than a killer forgiving his victim for dieing. RC Feb 2013 #4
How very magnanimous of him. sadbear Feb 2013 #6
"now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to Rome" Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #7
Roger Mahony is a liar, a criminal and many have know this for years and years. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #8
How noble of him. zappaman Feb 2013 #9
it's puke shanti Feb 2013 #11
thank you! zappaman Feb 2013 #12
I don't understand how anyone could be Catholic (speaking as a recovering Catholic). dorkzilla Feb 2013 #10
He is just as tone deaf as the NRA arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #14
To show how much this digusts people, even The American Conservative is aghast: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #15
To get a real idea about the scope of this scandal is almost impossible (cont) Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #16
Even if they weren't fine with it Aerows Feb 2013 #19
What a criminal creep. nt PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #17
I have only one response, and it isn't polite. Aerows Feb 2013 #18
R#5 & K, although Andy SULLIVAN has his own circle in Hades in my book. n/t UTUSN Feb 2013 #20
They say forgiveness is ultimately for the benefit of the one doing the forgiving Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #21
"Thanks to God's special grace." EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #22
Yep. That very same, nonexistent piece of shit. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #25
Sickening. progressoid Feb 2013 #26
If Mahoney is allowed to travel to Rome SwankyXomb Feb 2013 #29
What a sociopath! smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #30

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
2. At what point does part of that label fall onto those that continue to support this church?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:31 AM
Feb 2013

When do those that give time, money, and support to the catholic church that allows these evil men to stay in power and evade justice, get to share that well-deserved label?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
13. They're just on the same mental plane as those that joined the Hitler Youth.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:42 PM
Feb 2013

They don't *really* know what's going on, so it's all good for them.






lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. When I said at work that the Pope is a pedophile enabler
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:35 PM
Feb 2013

A catholic co-worker accused me of insulting her faith. Wrote me up and now management tells me I did something wrong because it's about religion and they want me to apologize to her.

I will not apologize for telling the truth nor am I responsible for what goes on in her head.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
27. What I should tell her is her condoning what the Pope does is what's offensive
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:00 PM
Feb 2013

and that she should apologize to the victims

GP6971

(31,164 posts)
3. "At about injustices that swirl around us"
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:35 AM
Feb 2013

Sexual abuse of minors and the cover ups are an injustice? Hey Cardinal......ever hear the term criminal? Of course not.....the RCC is above civilian law and everything coming out just proves it.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
10. I don't understand how anyone could be Catholic (speaking as a recovering Catholic).
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:34 PM
Feb 2013

I can only surmise that people are not paying attention to the words of Christ, but rather paying homage to their heritage. I used to self-identify as an Irish Catholic, like my Irish-born mother and my very observant and pious grandparents (Dad's side of the family ironically were heavily involved in anti-Papist activity, being various shades of Puritan, Methodists and a bevy of other offshoots after the Great Awakening). But a funny thing happened; I actually started really studying the New Testament and realized that most of what they were teaching was a giant crock of shit. The priest buggering was an open secret in our parish (even for those of us who attended public school...the CCD students picked up on the "don't get caught alone with Father so-and-so" pretty quickly) and, as I came to find out, all the other parishes.

Looking at their history (indulgences and the like) and their vast real estate holdings, their collection of priceless art, subjugation of women, killing people for "heresy", looking the other way when the Nazis were killing people, their ridiculous policies about condoms in Africa etc etc etc how any person could support these unholy evil bastards is beyond my comprehension. When I've asked my still-practicing family members why they still call themselves Catholic, knowing all they know now, they've got no good reason to impart.

Boggles the mind.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
15. To show how much this digusts people, even The American Conservative is aghast:
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:55 PM
Feb 2013
Catholic readers are choking my in-box with this link to retired L.A. Cardinal Roger Mahony’s latest blog entry, in which the sociopathic prelate feels sorry for himself because people are judging him for his role in facilitating the rape of children by his priests. You have to read the whole thing to believe this guy.
...
One of my readers, an orthodox Catholic theologian, sent the link and added:

I have to think he’s a clinical narcissist, a sociopath. I’ve known a few. This isn’t merely ego or being a strange assertive duck, but something clinical. If not demonic.


http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/mahony-proud-of-his-humility/
 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
16. To get a real idea about the scope of this scandal is almost impossible (cont)
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:09 PM
Feb 2013

By the Church's own admission, about 4% of US priests were accused of raping children.

According to the FBI, aproximately 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. Considering that we are talking about children (who are less likely to report or be believed) and allegations against priests (who were and are quite capable of applying tremendous pressure on parents not to report anything) it seems likely that the actual number of priests involved in this scandal is significantly higher. It seems entirely possible to me, based upon these numbers, that virtually every Catholic Priest in America was either involved in or aware of this abuse taking place.

Basically they all knew, and they were all fine with it.

This was business as usual for these guys. Nor do I believe for a second that this is a Catholic only phenomena.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
http://www.crimevictimservices.org/page/sexassault/76

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. Even if they weren't fine with it
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:14 PM
Feb 2013

Enough of them knew that they shouldn't have kept quiet about it. Anybody that covers up for a pedophile is a depraved piece of crap, too. A normal human being seeks to protect children.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. I have only one response, and it isn't polite.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:12 PM
Feb 2013

What an utterly disconnected, abjectly arrogant asshole.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
21. They say forgiveness is ultimately for the benefit of the one doing the forgiving
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:27 PM
Feb 2013

Which explains why this selfish piece of shit would feel good about doing it.

 

EastKYLiberal

(429 posts)
22. "Thanks to God's special grace."
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:32 PM
Feb 2013

You mean the God that stood idly by during all of these child rapes?

Pretty sure his blessing means shit.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
25. Yep. That very same, nonexistent piece of shit.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:21 PM
Feb 2013

I almost wish there was a god. When I die, I have a few things to say.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
29. If Mahoney is allowed to travel to Rome
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:21 PM
Feb 2013

He will not be returning, and joining Cardinal Law as an exile.

It is far past time that we declare the Vatican a state sponsor of terrorism, and place them firmly in the Axis of Evil.

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