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malaise

(269,038 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:32 PM Feb 2013

John McCain is a nasty human being

He will never forgive Obama for whipping his incompetent 'duncified' ass.

The two terms must be beyond painful.

Fuck you McGramps - you will never be President. I wish your first wife would talk.

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John McCain is a nasty human being (Original Post) malaise Feb 2013 OP
I'll give you "nasty". The jury's still out on "human being". 11 Bravo Feb 2013 #1
Good point malaise Feb 2013 #2
He's bound to be mostly tumor by now. kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #11
The guy has been screwed up his whole life BlueStreak Feb 2013 #3
I respectfully disagree about how he should be honored for being a POW. catbyte Feb 2013 #10
+++ nt Voice for Peace Feb 2013 #12
Bingo, catbyte! Well played! liam_laddie Feb 2013 #27
Mean Mr Mustard jambo101 Feb 2013 #4
The adults are in the room John, it's time to take your toys out of the sandbox and go home. sheshe2 Feb 2013 #5
two words: Sarah Palin nt msongs Feb 2013 #6
He's probably still struggling with untreated PTSD Ezlivin Feb 2013 #7
His rages are legendary. I agree with you, the guy is a hot mess. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #14
agreed samsingh Feb 2013 #8
He drafted McStupid Palin for his VP choice. That disqualified him on the spot. Gorp Feb 2013 #9
The term "maverick" used to describe him nevergiveup Feb 2013 #13
What was your first clue? 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #15
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm malaise Feb 2013 #16
Hey!!!!!!!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2013 #17
Ted Cruz, aka Sen Cur Dog vlyons Feb 2013 #18
Cruz is cruising for a public bruising malaise Feb 2013 #20
Good. narnian60 Feb 2013 #35
He referred, for some reason, the JFK assassination as ''the intervention in Dallas.'' Octafish Feb 2013 #19
I remember that well malaise Feb 2013 #22
Guy is the worst, a toady to Banksters and Oilmen. You know, warmongers. Octafish Feb 2013 #29
K&R patrice Feb 2013 #23
Helped loot the S&Ls in the 90s AND the Banks in the 00s. Octafish Feb 2013 #30
I swear to god, when GWB gave his nomination acceptance speech in 2004 & media interviewed McCain patrice Feb 2013 #31
A rocket fired accidentally, exploding 1000-pounders on the USS Forrestal flight line... Octafish Feb 2013 #32
Thanks for this! Amazing what money does to people's memories. nt patrice Feb 2013 #33
Was that a Freudian slip? Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #26
It IS a most interesting choice of phrase. Octafish Feb 2013 #28
I will never forget his glee in "Bomb,bomb,bomb,bomb,bomb Iran" he thought that was pretty damned patrice Feb 2013 #21
Nasty Uncle flying-skeleton Feb 2013 #24
He's worst than my worst uncle malaise Feb 2013 #25
You said it n/t Dpm12 Feb 2013 #34
Yup. Raffi Ella Feb 2013 #36
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
3. The guy has been screwed up his whole life
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:42 PM
Feb 2013

Last edited Mon Feb 18, 2013, 06:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Hey, I get it that spending years in the Hanoi Hilton can really mess up a person's brain -- permanently. And he should be honored for his service and what he endured.

But a person with such obvious problems should not be in any important decision-making position, certainly not the Senate.

And fuck the press. They know full well that the guy is off his rocker. But that makes for great entertainment putting him in front of the cameras practically every day. If they exploited any other brain damaged person like that, they would be criticized, but everybody seems to enjoy the "Crazy John" show.

People of Arizona, please take care of business.

catbyte

(34,402 posts)
10. I respectfully disagree about how he should be honored for being a POW.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 07:54 PM
Feb 2013

He was a shitty pilot who wrecked 4 aircraft and if Daddy hadn't been an Admiral or whatever he would've been grounded. He's been a mean bastard his whole life if that October 2008 Rolling Stone profile of him is accurate. His whole "maverick" image is a sham too. If you look back on the instances of him being mavericky, it's always a result of a personal grudge. He's a miserable SOB, always has been, always will be. I'll bet Cindy could tell some stories that would curl your hair.

liam_laddie

(1,321 posts)
27. Bingo, catbyte! Well played!
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:53 PM
Feb 2013

My impression of McCain is that of the spoiled brat of a Navy admiral, waited on throughout his early life by Filipino (likely) stewards in his father's cushy quarters, and actually believing he's now privileged well beyond the rest of us citizens just because "he's Senator John McCain!." His family's lived off the US government all his life; his arrogance, insularity and shameful treatment of his first wife...all this paints a portrait of a truly despicable person, and a lousy pilot to boot! WTF is he doing in the US Senate? Oh, wait...he's a republiklan married to a wealthy beer distributor heiress.

jambo101

(797 posts)
4. Mean Mr Mustard
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:46 PM
Feb 2013

I used to respect the man for his service to his country but ever since he thought Palin would be a good idea for VP he's been exhibiting many signs of senility.
Now he's a pathetic little man caught up in all the hate and dysfunction that is todays Republican party.

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
7. He's probably still struggling with untreated PTSD
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 06:17 PM
Feb 2013

Did he ever receive counseling for all that time he spent as a POW? That had to be a real head trip.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
14. His rages are legendary. I agree with you, the guy is a hot mess.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:17 PM
Feb 2013

But he was described by almost everyone that knew him as a sawed-off mean little prick with a volcanic temper long before he screwed the pooch over North Vietnam.

nevergiveup

(4,762 posts)
13. The term "maverick" used to describe him
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:09 PM
Feb 2013

in earlier days was always a misnomer. The guy was then and is now missing a couple of links upstairs. Add a touch of dementia to two missing links and you have today's John McCain. We should count our blessings that he never became president.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
15. What was your first clue?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:22 PM
Feb 2013

I think he's never gotten over the beating he took from Obama,
and the extended excruciating embarrassment of having Palin
on his ticket, that he couldn't really talk about in polite company.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. Ted Cruz, aka Sen Cur Dog
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:27 PM
Feb 2013

Must have high pressure steam coming from both ears with envy at how often Sen McGrumpy gets on TV EVERY WEEKEND!

malaise

(269,038 posts)
20. Cruz is cruising for a public bruising
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:29 PM
Feb 2013

He should stay away from TV - he will self destruct or some scandal with do it for him.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
19. He referred, for some reason, the JFK assassination as ''the intervention in Dallas.''
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:28 PM
Feb 2013

On the tee vee, about the moment he said it:



These three DUers noticed:

Hootinholler:

Anyone else notice McCane referred to the Kennedy assasination as an intervention?


chimpsrsmarter

From the debate-McCain" before the intervention of the tragedy at Dallas."


stubtoe

The "intervention" at Dallas?


President Kennedy was not killed by an intervention
It appears he was killed by an act of the state --
or people in authority --
acting together.

And that is what is so hard for people to believe.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
31. I swear to god, when GWB gave his nomination acceptance speech in 2004 & media interviewed McCain
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:05 AM
Feb 2013

afterwards, and McCain was ecstatic because GWB had used some of McCain's own talking points . . . I swear to god he was absolutely plastered on camera, he was keeping it together well enough, but he absolutely exuded paternalistic contempt. Snotty as fucking hell and I can't remember who was interviewing him, but whoever it was he just ate that puke right up and panted for more.

..............................................

You may have seen those stories too about some problem he was involved in or near, as a pilot, during Vietnam War, some possible prank with a just recently landed jet, near (?) or was his own, that backfired accidentally or accidentally on purpose, which resulted in a major fire on the deck of the carrier that killed several people. Investigation was indeterminate as to his role in the incident.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
32. A rocket fired accidentally, exploding 1000-pounders on the USS Forrestal flight line...
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:32 AM
Feb 2013

This is why he's nuts.



Sailors to the End: The Deadly Fire on the USS Forrestal and the Heroes Who Fought It

By Gregory A. Freeman. William Morrow. ISBN 0-06-621267-7.

In 1967, U.S. Navy Capt. John Beling sailed his ship, the aircraft carrier uss Forrestal, to Vietnam. The ship would suffer the worst accident in the U.S. Navy since World War II. On July 29, 1967, while performing strike operations, the Forrestal was suddenly wracked by explosions and fire. The carrier was severely damaged; 134 men were killed and 161 wounded. This book tells their story.

Author Gregory Freeman is a journalist with a keen sense of drama and a reporter's eye for thorough research and vivid description. In Sailors to the End, his second book, Freeman uses his skills to tell a remarkable story of naval history, tragic mistakes, unbelievable luck, and selfless courage.

Aircraft carrier life always has been dangerous. There are many ways to get hurt even when things run smoothly. However, as Freeman reveals, when bad luck and bad decisions combine, disaster results.

On that hot July day a large air strike against North Vietnam was being prepared on the carrier's flight deck. Jet planes, ordnance, and people were everywhere. Suddenly, a 5-inch Zuni rocket accidentally fired from a waiting fighter jet, striking the plane of Navy pilot (now senator) John McCain, rupturing the fuel tank and causing a massive fire that engulfed other planes, pilots, and crewmembers.

McCain and several other men escaped the blazing inferno just before nine 1,000-pound bombs loaded on aircraft began to explode. The blasts and raging fire blew the flight deck apart, allowing burning fuel to penetrate deep into the ship's interior decks. Men were incinerated, suffocated, and mangled from flying debris. In just a few minutes the ship appeared mortally stricken.

Telling this story from the perspective of the officers and men of the Forrestal, Freeman describes shipboard horrors that are beyond belief. However, the 5,000-man crew reacted as they were trained to, fighting the fires, controlling the damage, and rescuing injured shipmates. Many rescuers died trying to save others. The ship's entire professional firefighting team was wiped out when a 1,000-pound bomb exploded right in front of them. Other sailors heroically stayed at their battle stations, doing their duty, until they perished.

CONTINUED...

http://www.moaa.org/magazine/January2003/bookshelf.asp



My cousin's roommate's uncle's friend's step-sister told me McCain had been ordered not to fly with the WWII-era 1,000 pound bombs because they were unstable in a fire. This fellah said McCain has some things in the family's military file that Karl Rove could use on him.



Why is John McCain so supportive of Bush and Cheney after being so viciously attacked by them in the 2000 campaign? The answer to this question may partially rest in Navy records detailing the events that took place on the USS Forrestal in "Yankee Station" in the Gulf of Tonkin at the end of July 1967. The neo-cons, who have had five years to examine every file within the Department of Defense, have likely accessed documents that could prove embarrassing to McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-to-ground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom. What have sealed Navy records given to the neo-cons to blackmail McCain? Plenty, according to eyewitness on the USS Forrestal.

According to an eyewitness to the Navy's worst fire disaster that killed 134 sailors and injured 62, McCain and the Forrestal's skipper, Capt. John K. Beling, were warned about the danger of using M-65 1000-lb. bombs manufactured in 1935, which were deemed too dangerous to use during World War II and, later, on B-52 bombers. The fire from the Zuni misfire resulted in the heavy 1000 pounders being knocked loose from the pylons of McCain's A-4, which were only designed to hold 500-pound bombs.

During the fighting of the fire and while VF-74 and VF-11 were still counting their dead, McCain was helicoptered off the Forrestal to the USS Oriskany, which suffered a major fire on October 27, 1966, that killed 44 sailors. In that event, thousand pound bombs were jettisoned away from the fire but the lessons of the Oriskany went unheeded by the Forrestal's officers, including McCain, who served with the VA-163 Saints on board the Oriskany when the fire on that vessel occurred. On October 26, 1967, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam during a bombing sortie from the Oriskany.

The unstable bombs had a 60-second cook-off threshold in a fire situation and this warning was known to both Beling and McCain prior to the disaster. On January 14, 1969, the USS Enterprise, steaming 75 miles southwest of Pearl Harbor, suffered a major fire. In that episode, similar unstable 1000-pound bombs detonated, killing 27 sailors and injuring more than 100. At the time of the Enterprise disaster, the Commander-in- Chief of US Pacific Forces was Adm. John S. McCain, Jr.,Sen. McCain's father.

At the time of the Forrestal disaster, Admiral McCain was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty, on June 8, 1967. The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds) with an accompanying classified paper trail inside the Pentagon, may be all that was needed to hold a Sword of Damocles over the head of the "family honor"-oriented (McCain's persona is supported by his book about his father and grandfather, both Navy admirals, titled "Faith of My Fathers&quot and the "straight talking" McCain.

SOURCE: http://deepbutter.blogspot.com/2006_01_15_deepbutter_ar...



Gee. The truth on McCain. I bet every time Bush brings it up, McCain hurts his neck.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
26. Was that a Freudian slip?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:46 PM
Feb 2013

Did he hear that term thrown around at meetings with neocon "king-makers" during his presidential nomination run?

patrice

(47,992 posts)
21. I will never forget his glee in "Bomb,bomb,bomb,bomb,bomb Iran" he thought that was pretty damned
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:30 PM
Feb 2013

funny.

flying-skeleton

(697 posts)
24. Nasty Uncle
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:37 PM
Feb 2013

McCain's like a nasty Uncle that shows up at all the family gatherings WITHOUT being invited and them proceeds to always make a fool of himself and has to be literally thrown out at the end of the party because he won't leave voluntarily .......... only to show up at the next gathering.

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