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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it possible that Rachel's show Hubris is a lead in to prosecutions?
Maybe it was an attempt to educate the public about exactly what transpired and open the dialogue about prosecuting them. Most of the show was no surprise to DU'ers, just a walk down memory lane and the anger about the whole pack of lies.
Obama is in his second term, so now has the freedom to prosecute the Bush bunch and the constitution Geneva Conventions demand they be brought to justice as well as the part that forbids wars of aggression.
I'll have to sit down and read what the procedure to prosecute them is...whether the DOJ or Congress starts the ball rolling.
madokie
(51,076 posts)msongs
(67,406 posts)Loudly
(2,436 posts)aptal
(304 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)how the "stovepipe" operated. Seasoned intel gatherers were shoved aside and Cheney's minions took over.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Maybe Obama was asked and he said please run it?
I R Bush = hubris
goclark
(30,404 posts)She is a brave , brave , brilliant lady!
Something tells me she checks in to DU sometimes - hope so.
We love you Rachel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
avebury
(10,952 posts)the past are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)The book on which it was all based has yet to do so, so why should this? I doubt it will even generate outrage beyond those who were already outraged. Just more preaching to the choir.
Exultant Democracy
(6,594 posts)Not as far as I can recall.
Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)this is a big neon "Don't go there"...
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Warpy
(111,264 posts)If and when it is repeated on broadcast television, which still has the largest audience, then maybe it has a chance of leading to prosecutions.
One thing Obama knows for certain is if he goes after these murderers, the next Democrat will be hounded out of office because putting an outgoing administration on trial is a bad precedent to set with a party as spiteful and childish as the Republicans have become.
We will have to wait for the next reasonable administration, if then. Remember, it took 30 years to get Pinochet.
One thing Cheney needs to think about is that he will always be under the shadow of legal action for his role in lying this country into a war of corporate convenience and the murder of so many Iraqi citizens in our name.
It won't.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)I doubt it, though.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)They are untouchable.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But I am as cynical as they come.
magellan
(13,257 posts)At most I expect that some day, far in the future, when all the main players are dust, there'll be some belated "sober discussion" of the failure to prosecute. At most.
aristocles
(594 posts)Who or what body would have jurisdiction?
shraby
(21,946 posts)constitution because it's a treaty we signed. It states that if the offending country doesn't act, the international community must.
hay rick
(7,619 posts)No. Our judicial system has been co-opted.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)There is an entire region who would love to be the one to claim they took revenge for what he did.
Not only would I not shed a tear for any of them if that were to happen but I would cheer that person who did it also.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)I won't be holding my breath waiting for it to ever happen.
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)I can't prove that it's impossible that Iraq had WMDs so I suppose in some sense it's possible that they did have them. Somewhere. Just not anywhere anyone could ever find them. Possibly in an alternate dimension. Just so, I cannot prove that Rachel's showcasing of Hubris is not part of a coordinated lead in to belated prosecutions of the Bush Administration for crimes of war, by leaders of what remains one of the most war happy countries in history. I can't prove that it's impossible. So you'd have to say it's possible. But let's just say that I doubt it highly, in both cases.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)There is plenty of world wide hatred, disgust and evidence outside of the US to make it a crime against humanity and put out an international warrant for their arrest. The US has too many closets and political baggage to do diddly squat about the Bush regime. Here, it's a dead issue. In the World's eye view, the momentum has only started.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Not a chance.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)It's been made quite clear the current government has no intention of investigating the Iraq war in any shape or form.
Remember in 2006, Nancy Pelosi publicly came out and said there will be no impeachment hearings or investigations concerning the Iraq war.
So no... For one reason or another, our government just does not have the stomach for this. 1) I think Democrats are afraid the public will view it as partisan and pointless and wasting time. 2) They think the truth could diplomatically damage the United States. and 3) Do you hand over a former president to a war crimes trial?
It's too messy...and no one wants to deal with it. So don't expect any government action.
gateley
(62,683 posts)tear the country apart.
Not sure what they could prosecute them WITH, either. Maybe some DU attorneys could enlighten us.
These people deserve to rot in jail. David Corn told Tweety he thought that Cheney believed the neo-con BS, but I think it was just power and greed.
I hate him with a passion.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)CanonRay
(14,103 posts)it will never happen, although it should.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)No way. These sons of bitches will never be held accountable. Thanks for the laugh though.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)I thought for a long time that there could be no worse Attorney General than John Ashcroft, but I sure was wrong about that.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)"Putting Bush on trial for Iraq? When are you going to put yourself on trial for Benghazi?"
hack89
(39,171 posts)Obama wants to pass his agenda - he can't do both. Prosecution would gridlock our government like never before.
spanone
(135,838 posts)the media was complicit in the war, why would they want to resurrect it?
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)The US Government is above international law. Always has been. It basically created international law, or at least is all that keeps it from crumbling.
The US Government bombs and kills whoever it wants to. Accept it.
1. US
2. UN
3. Everyone else
That's the way it's been, is, and will be. Unless that dynamic changes somehow, and it won't be a voluntary change.