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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMindy McCready Worked On Video About Suicide The Day Before Her Death
A few days before her death, Mindy McCready enlisted the help of her friend Danno Hanks to make a video. Her late boyfriend David Wilson produced a song prior to his death with an up-and-coming artist named Courtney Dashe. The two women had since met and bonded over the song, and Mindy was hoping to put together something special that would help those who lost a loved one to suicide. At the time, Hanks thought the project was a tribute to Wilson, who recently took his own life, but after McCready shot herself and the family dog yesterday, hes now convinced the video was some kind of macabre suicide note.
Heres a portion of the actual quote he gave to E! News
"I thought she was talking about sending a message about suicide for David's death but this is unbelievable. She was sending me a message. I wish I had been more alert to what it was. Everybody wants to reach out after the fact but nobody wants to be there when it is happening. I just didn't think she would do this. She had two kids to live for. I still can't fathom the whole thing."
The song in question is entitled Ill See You Yesterday. Dashe went to one of Mindys concerts and personally gave her the song, along with a blessing to record it. The track was apparently a great comfort to McCready in the last weeks of her life, and those around her thought working on it and possibly even doing a cover version had given her a reason to live. Unfortunately, it now seems it gave her a way to say goodbye.
http://www.cinemablend.com/pop/Mindy-McCready-Worked-Video-About-Suicide-Day-Her-Death-52720.html
Skittles
(153,160 posts)considering her history
Gorp
(716 posts)He said when he left her that she seemed upbeat. Unfortunately, a positive mood swing is often the sign that suicide is impending - coming to terms with death so to speak.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)very glad they had the sense to get the children away from her
Gorp
(716 posts)but all it takes is one that he missed finding. And yes, getting the kids out was important, but I thought her ex (the kids' natural father) initiated that process. Maybe that was a different story. Anyway, shooting the dog was not necessary and rather disgusting. The dog didn't do anything wrong and I'm sure the kids loved it.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)her beau had been a certified gun nut before he killed himself
catbyte
(34,393 posts)I know she had "demons", but what an awful, selfish thing to do to kill the family pet too.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)It punishes those who remain by removing the person who commits suicide from all the scene and never allows for resolution of issues for that person or others around them.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)No it's not.
Please read up on suicide.
For real.
www.afsp.org
Dash87
(3,220 posts)The world a favor. Yeah, it makes no sense, but suicide is also irrational.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)BE GRATEFUL FOR THAT because you sound clueless to those of us with more insight
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)It speaks to your ignorance of me and how I have experienced issues of depression and suicide in my lifetime. I don't know your experiences. I do know that there is a very real element of punishing others through self-inflicted violence in the act of suicide.
easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)Your experience is not the statistic norm.
You cannot speak for others, but research does and can.
www.afsp.org
Skittles
(153,160 posts)VERY small
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I sure hope you never have to deal with it.
Sometimes it is an enormously courageous and selfless act.
I will refrain from saying the rest of what I think of your callous post.
ChazII
(6,205 posts)when it was one thing that may have brought her sons comfort was an act of selfishness. May she finally rest in peace and may her boys get through this tragedy.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)it was a way of reuniting the couple with the dog on the other side.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)and to top off how utterly contemptuous she was, her youngest son was only 10 months old. If her entire life did not show what a POS she was, her final act sure did.
easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)was a piece of shit?
You do know that mental illness is a disease, right? And that 90% of people who die by suicide have a mental illness?
Educate yourself.
www.afsp.org
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)The lack of empathy here is really really disappointing. People here talk about how worthless she was without realizing that they are agreeing with her.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)killing the dog was inexcusable--shooting him? No excuse at all. I am glad no humans were there, actually.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Probably her thoughts exactly. "No one will love the dog like she did." "No one will be there to take care of it." People act like the logic they are familiar with was at play here. It wasn't.
easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)She's dead.
She was not thinking rationally. She was ill. I can have compassion for all involved. So can you.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)"11. My issue is her killing the family dog. I understand despair and it's tragic, but
killing the dog was inexcusable--shooting him? No excuse at all."
That is not an expression of compassion. It is a judgement.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)I am sure it was a scary, painful death. What's wrong with you? Would you feel the same if she'd shot her child? Sorry, just because someone is suicidal does NOT give them a right to take another life. If you call that judgemental, so be it. I still think it is wrong.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)ALL.
That's the point.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)They were suicidal too.
easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)I'm no ones judge and jury.
Sad that you feel the need to be. That usually means you need to feel superior to someone.
What I did say, was 90% of people who suicide have a mental illness. I gave you a link to a foundation that knows about suicide.
I'm not going to condemn anyone having any illness. Mental illness is a illness. Just because you don't understand that, does not change that fact.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)She was so damaged at that point, she probably thought she was doing the children a favor. And to say her life showed she was a POS -- you mean when an older man seduced her out of her teen years, or the times she was verbally abused by her mother or the time the boyfriend beat her up, or the love of her life killed himself?
Buy a clue. This woman was damaged beyond her ability to cope.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)She coveted the struggle. We all know people like that. If there's a sliver of happiness in their lives they lose their shit and go off the rails. Now, at least the kids will have a chance to be raised by someone mentally stable instead of a lifetime of being forced to bear the burden of her immense and largely self induced emotional baggage.
Flame away.......
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)and abandoned through suicide because that's what they really desire, not happiness. Or that is "happiness" for them. It's just that simple.
Or, perhaps it is more complicated than that. Perhaps each incident chips away at a persons self worth and dignity. That there lives become so twisted that abuse feels like love, or is at least most comfortable than love, that a person gets so low that they don't believe they deserve any better. Self-preservation is the most primal of instincts. Do you realize how twisted in your own mind to take your life (with the exception of those facing terminal or incapacitating illness, which I think is a rational choice and should be legal.)
I certainly hope no one in your life relies on you for emotional support.
Floyd_Gondolli
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joeybee12
(56,177 posts)But killing the dog....selfish.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)that she shot the dog than killing herself.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Killing the dog colors what she did...you can't just see that she killed her self, you see that she killed the dog also, and the dog had no say in that matter. I could easily say to you, "Nice to see some people don't get a rat's ass about dogs."
veganlush
(2,049 posts)Of your madness. Dogs, like pigs and most other animals want to live
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)Therein lies the problem. You condemning an irrational person for not making a rational choice. Do you see the issue with that?
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)The next time the gun could have been turned on one of the kids during one of her "moments" of pathos.
Crisis averted IMO.
veganlush
(2,049 posts)first, obviously, then herself. I know the dog doesn't matter, animals are just property. So i have no issue with what she did, I just wish she had reversed the order.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)And the dog does matter to some of us.
veganlush
(2,049 posts)the dog matters immensely. I despise the way our society views animals as property. As Henry David Thoreau said: "I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other when they came in contact with the more civilized."
HENRY DAVID THOREAU, Walden
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)would she have shot the kids if they had been there? Such a tragic situation. Those kids will have emotional scars for the rest of their lives.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)Thankfully we'll never know. But when I heard she shot the dog, that was my first thought.
I'd say the odds are about 70-30 she would have shot the children if they had been in her company or care.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)This woman was obviously suffering. May she be at peace.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Interesting to see where concerns lie.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)This poor woman had more than her share of hell on earth. I'm so sorry that she felt she couldn't go on, and I am sorry she killed the dog (sincerely) because he had no choice. It's all simply very sad.
But I'm really ready for the publicity of this story to stop. (This is NOT a cut to the OP for posting, just a commentary that these stories seem to perpetuate in the media indefinitely).
REP
(21,691 posts)The children were in foster care, and had not been living with the dog. Suicidal people aren't the most rational; she may have thought she was doing right by the dog by killing it herself rather than having it die with strangers.
What a sad story all around.