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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVirginia Pizza Shop Offers A Discount To Anyone Who Carries A Gun
At one Virginia pizza shop, customers who bring in a gun or show a gun permit get 15 percent off their order. The pro-gun owner of All Around Pizzas and Deli claimed that 80 percent of his customers have walked in carrying a gun since he offered the discount last week, including one carrying an AK-47. Its been awesome, the owner, Jay Laze, said.
Nice Ron Paul sign
All Around Pizzas isnt the only business encouraging customers to tote guns two months after the Newtown shooting. Earlier this month, a Utah ice cream business offered concealed carry permit-holders $1 off of their ice cream.
Thanks to Virginias open carry laws, customers can not only enjoy their pizza next to a gun, but they can also go to the bank, hospital, store, and a bar with firearms.
Guns and babies, nice combo.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/19/1607601/pizza-guns-discount/
It's stuff like this that exacerbates much of the doubt that we're living in a civilized society.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)RKP5637
(67,108 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Livin' in the USA!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Also, it'll make it easier to collect their guns when the time comes.
Are you a NRA member? A gun range regular? A Glib Sociopath that goes to a pizza place, because you know it is run by other Glib Sociopaths?
WE HAVE YOUR NAME!
Idiots.
Coyote_Tan
(194 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)So smart...
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)HoneychildMooseMoss
(251 posts)If one pays by credit or debit card, one must divulge one's name.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)The extremists and prohibitionists in the gun control faction are their worst enemies.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)The extremists are the folks who think they need multiple AR-15's and many 30-round clips.
Those are the extremists. Al-Qaeda can look at them and appreciate their weaponry.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Coyote_Tan
(194 posts)The only difference between the two groups is that only one is trying to determine how the other one lives.
Before you say it, being scared of inanimate objects doesn't count as forcing someone to live a certain way...
Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #92)
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Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)But everyone says "They aren't going to take your guns away."
Perhaps you should confer with your associates.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Welcome to ignore.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)And yes, there are attempts to insert laws that demand surrender of guns and others that seek to allow police warrantless searches.
But since you're ignoring me now I suppose my points will stand unchallenged..
ThatPoetGuy
(1,747 posts)and there are attempts to have Obama declared President For Life, and there are attempts to have him sent "back" to Kenya.
It would take a highly propagandized perspective to base a viewpoint on any of these "attempts."
But then, only a highly propagandized person would hold the viewpoints you seem to think are real.
Reality is interesting. You should check it out sometime.
sarisataka
(18,655 posts)http://www.stltoday.com/news/state-and-regional/missouri/mo-democrats-propose-assault-weapon-ban/article_a1e7ef85-ae97-57b0-bb85-a1b2bed51f80.html
H.F. No. 241 which despite claims to the contrary does apply to pistols as well as rifles, mandates owners turn in the guns for destruction... http://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0241.0.html&session=ls88
In WA there was an "oversight" that included the right for police to search a gun owner's house without warrant, on three separate bills.
Latest on MN bill:
Sen. Ron Latz, DFL-St. Louis Park, who is chairing the Senates gun hearings this week, said he will focus on closing the loopholes in background checks and leave the issue of banning weapons or ammunition to Congress.
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Support came from Protect Minnesota, a gun-control organization, and former Minneapolis Police Chief Tim Dolan. But the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association, which represents rank-and-file police officers, threw its support behind universal background checks rather than the guns and magazine bans.
Two points- it is a Democrat who is tabling the ban bill. Second, despite repeatedly being told the police back strict control, it is the rank and file who support background checks over bans, when given the choice.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Apparently I'm forced to inhabit the same reality as those proposing the legislation you claim does not exist.
However, what I was referring to was the fact that onehandle wrote, "it'll make it easier to collect their guns when the time comes." if seizing weapons is not part of the agenda of some then such a statement would be implausible. But he did make that statement and he seems to look forward to a time when it isn't merely plausible but actual law.
Since you seem to a part of the "it can't happen here" camp would you like to go on record stating unequivocally that you would oppose all efforts to impose a general ban?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Nuclear Unicorn is NOT claiming that guns will be collected. She is pointing out that onehandle believes the time will come when guns are taken away.
Note this from onehandle's post #3 in this thread: Also, it'll make it easier to collect their guns when the time comes.
I would say the NU is in tune with reality when she points out the onehandle's view contradicts that of many DUers, including yourself, who claim that gun won't be taken up.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Welcome to 2013, Not 1860.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Post all the cartoons you like - open carry is a privilege granted by law.
Are pot smokers in CO sociopaths?
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Damn, I missed it.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)You shouldn't keep company with such mindsets.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Wow what a comparison. It should be against the law to bring your paranoia into any business establishment unless it's a gun shop. I hope this asshole pizza guy gets robbed or goes out of business. I would NEVER go into a place like that. Assholes like this can stockpile ammo and guns till his hearts content, but lawmakers in Colorado are concerned about stockpiling pot at home. And open carry infringes on the rest of the public. It puts people lives in danger, and should NEVER be allowed.
How about having a national gun nut day. That way, the rest of us sane people can stay home that day, and the gun nuts can have a parade and show off their penises, I mean guns.
Light House
(413 posts)That's nuttier than your gun nuts.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Guns in banks: great idea, Virginia!
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)A bank in Texas, several years ago. Hasn't been a problem there.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)This country is a sad joke. People around the world just point and laugh.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)Care now?
Isolationist jingoism is amazing to me.
Light House
(413 posts)but it's their store, so if that's what they want to do, have at it and accept the consequences whatever they may be.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)All you'd have to do is shout "This is a robbery!" from outside and every fucking wanna be Rambo in that place would be shooting at anything that moves. When the dust clears you take the till and all the wallets.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Turbineguy
(37,332 posts)in case she needs to shoot her baby tout de suite.
When you want to live like a savage, you should dress like one.
Macoy51
(239 posts)I wonder what a would-be rapist would do if he saw the young mother with a gun? Keep walking would be my first guess.
Macoy
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)This thread is unreal. Sure is bringing out a lot of gungeoneers.
FightingIrish
(2,716 posts)We have a serious problem but the rest of the world is laughing at us. God, I wish these idiots had their own country to ruin.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)The rest of the world thinks the US has lost their ever lovin' collective mind with regards to guns. Not that you care. Although, it seems a lot of people here cared what the rest of the world thought when Bush was president, but when it comes to guns, it's okay to be reviled according to you. Did you care what the rest of the world thought when Bush was in office?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Don't expect me or anyone else to take seriously someone's international PR efforts when guns/gun control is a domestic concern. You seem to share the same problem in approaching this issue as other controllers: Reliance on shame and contrived moral opprobrium as a method of effecting social policy. It doesn't work, but it is peculiarly American, if not worthy of laughter.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)And it's NOT a fucking domestic concern. About half of all our gun crimes in Canada are commited with 'legally purchased' US guns. Don't give me 'this is a domestic issue' crap (ie you foreigners should butt out) because it isn't. And it IS a moral issue, but laugh your ass off....because like a lot of republicans, YOU are on the wrong side of history.
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)These people are sick
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)"these people" right here in this thread.
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)Every one of them.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)And 'ol Festus sure look like he's enjoin' his picture-takin'
I'd starve to death before I ate in that dump.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Mmmm... pizza....
City Lights
(25,171 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)4 out of 5 customers are gunhumpers that patronize that nitwit's place.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)nice rewards program, eh?
Javaman
(62,530 posts)Light House
(413 posts)It would probably end up like that scene at the end of the movie, Enemy of the State with Will Smith where eveyone shoots everyone else and only Will Smith survives by crawling under a table.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=enemy+of+the+state+shootout&mid=895B7CE91CB70309BDD1895B7CE91CB70309BDD1&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1
Initech
(100,076 posts)virgdem
(2,126 posts)You can bet that I won't be going there for pizza, or what passes as pizza down here (as a born and bred New Yorker, I can say that this is not the pizza I grew up eating on Long Island).
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I love most pizza, but there's just something about NY city pizza.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I would probably prefer the pizza in NY, since that is the pizza I ate as a child.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Just saying.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Forget the guns; the Ron Paul banner alone is enough to keep me from ever setting foot in there...
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)stuntcat
(12,022 posts)The hairless upright monkeys have evolved so much!
I'm sure armed crowds of them couldn't be incited to violence!
#humanity
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Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...during lunch?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Most other industrialized countries have much lower gun death rates and higher life expectancies.
Maybe we can learn something from the "cool kids"
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)aunts or any female in "honor killings", or make them marry their rapist, because they got raped. We don't make our female population cover themselves from head to toe or wear burkas. We don't practice female infanticide like they do in China, India or a few other countries.
We don't strap bombs to ourselves and blow up as many innocent bystanders as possible, with the belief we'll have 72 virgins waiting for us in heaven. We don't bow and scrape to psychotic dictators or "Dear Leaders"....
We do, however, know our RIGHTS, and choose to use them within the extent of the laws of our states, counties, municipalities, townships, etc..
We're nowhere near as crazy as some other countries...
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)than ultra religious 3rd world countries, well, that's just sad. Is that what the US has come to? So much for 'world leader' in anything anymore,
Heywood J
(2,515 posts)Welcome to the concept of a discussion board.
EastKYLiberal
(429 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)mokawanis
(4,441 posts)That line made me laugh. Make sure you shoot the bad guy and don't fire a round into some kid's head by accident.
That pizza store owner? Surprised he feels comfortable with random strangers walking in with loaded weapons. Takes a real gun-humper to think they're safe around strangers with guns.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)"We aim to please - you aim too, please"
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)cheaper just to let them take the money.
I worked at a restaraunt where we had a tip jar on the counter, and sometimes teenagers would come in and grab it and run off. One time one ran right past me and I thought about throwing a leg out to trip him. But I decided to just let him run, its not worth the legal situation of hurting some kid over a plastic beer pitcher with less than $10 in crumpled ones in it.
We just emptied the jar often throughout the day instead of just at closing, but always left a few ones in there just so people would know they're supposed to put money in it.
TheCowsCameHome
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GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Private places can't put that sign up.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)And the NRA can't do a thing about it.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Read post #58 very carefully.
I was merely pointing out a wonderful sign that is posted near where I live.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Everybody knows that you can't take a gun into a Federal facility unless you are specifically authorized to do so.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Even a lousy attorney would have a field day with that one.
Gorp
(716 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Gorp
(716 posts)It's a nasty thing. It isn't so much the gauge, but rather the weapons that that gauge feeds. My shotgun is a 20 gauge. That doesn't sound much different, but the shotgun is bolt action, the clip holds two rounds, and it isn't a rifle, much less an assault rifle. It's also rather old, like back when Sears sold guns. I think it's based on a Remington but I'm not sure. It might be a Winchester. It was my late father-in-laws gun. It's a pretty thing, craftsmanship-wise. I keep his handguns locked in a fire safe - no ammo.
A .233 is designed for fully automatic fire. The civilian models of guns that take it really don't have much difference from a fully automatic. You can get bump-stock kits and secondary grips for squat on the net. As Steve Martin said in "My Blue Heaven", "A 45 will blow a hole in you the size of a barn door and there's a lot of dry cleaning involved. A 22 will just rattle around in your skull like, Pac Man or something."
I don't keep the clip in the shotgun, but it's available (and loaded with two rounds) if I need it. The only reason I'm really concerned about are rabid skunks or raccoons. We get those around here. Humans, not so much, although I suspect some are rabid. Cars with their fucking alarms going off at 3 a.m. are a much more likely target. Does anyone pay attention to car alarms? Seriously. All they do is annoy people. Now THAT'S a legitimate argument for grenade launchers!
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Gorp
(716 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Gorp
(716 posts)I'm sure that's in Leviticus somewhere.
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)Stuff looks like it's barely one step above Domino's.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)It would be hiliarious beyond belief if these idiots got robbed. And then the crook demands his discount.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
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GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Charleton Heston may have been concerned about his hands, but before his statements there was this:
"You can't have my gun. The only way you're gonna get it from me is to try and take it." Huey Newton to the police in 1966-67.
Of course Ronald Reagan got the gun-control ball rolling with the Mulford Act in California which made it illegal to openly carry firearms in public; I mean, no one really wanted black folks with guns. The fear of armed blacks underwrote the 1968 Gun Controls Act.
As basic understanding of the history of modern gun control will reveal its racist origins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_night_special
In his book Restricting Handguns: The Liberal Skeptics Speak Out, civil rights attorney and gun scholar Don Kates found racial overtones in the focus on the Saturday Night Special[16] ("niggertown Saturday night special" . Even gun control advocate Robert Sherrill claimed: "The Gun Control Act of 1968 was passed not to control guns but to control blacks."[17]
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Distasteful, disappointing, but that is the real beginnings of late 10th Century gun control. Go back further, and the precursors for many gun laws (proposed and enacted) were based on both antebellum and Jim Crow era Southern laws. Even NYC's Sullivan Laws were based on anti-Italian sentiment. Prohibition seems really to be about peoples, not the things, behaviors or status which is to be banned.
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Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Hence, the beginnings of the gun-control outlook.
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Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)The brief did a very cogent, economical historical survey of the racist origins of gun control, from antebellum times through the mid-twentieth century; some laws were overt, others were barely-concealed subterfuge. Who submitted the brief? Georgiacarry.com
http://www.georgiacarry.com/Heller/07-290bsacGeorgiaCarry.pdf
Can't you imagine a bunch of Georgia Crackers (primarily) having to due political latrine duty concerning their past? You gotta love it!
It is refreshing to see that you concede there are "racists (in the) gun control crowd." And they are closer than you think.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)PD: "Calm down, sir, calm down - now tell me, what did the robber look like, and did he have a weapon?"
Pizza guy: "What difference does that make? - Everyone in here has fucking gun!!!!"
lame54
(35,290 posts)Order 2 large pizza and take whatever's in the cash register
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)Helen Reddy
(998 posts)mwrguy
(3,245 posts)This is insane.
Heimer
(63 posts)Not a single one noticed and barfed all over the Ron Paul banner in the background?
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)lynne
(3,118 posts)- and know it's there than wonder who is carrying concealed.
We all do things every day - including eating in restaurants - where other patrons are carrying concealed and we have no clue. I'd rather know it's there and then I'm able to decide if I want to stay or go.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)You know, the one where they open the cash register?
Duh.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Anybody?
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Therefore, it's not too likely.
RZM
(8,556 posts)And also hoping that people die in the crossfire.
Classy.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Pizza shop robberies aren't a big news item, so I don't know.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)"Hey! Check this out!" and gunfire will ensue.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)There are plenty of places out there that allow open carry-surely one of you lot could at least come up with an
example by now...
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Ian David
(69,059 posts)"They walked in with a big ol' gun, so I immediately felt really safe, until they put it to my head and asked for my money."
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Both times working in pizza joints. This does not make me feel any safer.
polly7
(20,582 posts)and it's legal (crazy, imo, but) that's up to them, but seeing the baby in this picture really bothers me.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Of course once a month doesn't equal great savings....
Aristus
(66,380 posts)Yep, that's quite a substantial discount, all right...
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)its sucks.
treestar
(82,383 posts)We're to think the other people with guns are going to stop it right off and get the right person, of course.
Glaug-Eldare
(1,089 posts)It's just a pizza place, and it's just a bunch of licensed people in the same place. It's not like this is a criminal convention or something. I don't see anybody holding a gun in an unsafe manner, I don't see anyone acting in a threatening way, and I don't assume that a woman with a child is a danger to society. It's a promotion that drew in business and money.
As for pizza, the one time I went to New York and tried theirs, it was disgusting. Not even exaggerating, I felt like vomiting.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I'm going to take that as a clue that you see nothing wrong with people brandishing firearms in public places as well, much like granny up there.
I'll just impart that some of us think that it's ridiculous for others to make a point of carrying dangerous weapons around in a so-called civilized society. Especially a resort town like VA Beach.
As far as the NY pizza experience is concerned, it's true: you can't please everybody.
Glaug-Eldare
(1,089 posts)It is definitely wrong to brandish in a public place, but granny is holding the rifle in a nonthreatening way, and was probably asked to pose with it, consider how difficult it is to carry or eat pizza with a long gun and the fact that it's fitted with a sling. We clearly disagree on the ridiculousness of firearms carry, but that's more of an issue for the gungeon so I won't try to argue it with you in GD. Suffice it to say, I don't see that pizza restaurant as a more dangerous place than a police station full of people with guns.
You're right about the pizza -- it's all a matter of taste!