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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:35 PM Feb 2013

Ted Cruz (R-Crazy) still insists Harvard had twelve professors hell bent on overthrowing the US govt

Not 11 and not 13. Cruz claims there were exactly 12 Harvard Law professors who wanted to overthrow the US government. So when will Cruz name names?



Ted Cruz Responds—And Still Sees Red at Harvard Law
Posted by Jane Mayer


Senator Ted Cruz has responded to The New Yorker’s report that he accused Harvard Law School of having had “twelve” Communists who “believed in the overthrow of the U.S. Government” on its faculty when he attended in the early nineties. Cruz doesn’t deny that he said this; instead, through his spokesman, he says he was right: Harvard Law was full of Communists.

His spokeswoman Catherine Frazier told The Blaze website that the “substantive point” in Cruz’s charge, made in a speech in 2010, was “was absolutely correct.”

She went on to explain that “the Harvard Law School faculty included numerous self-described proponents of ‘critical legal studies’—a school of thought explicitly derived from Marxism—and they far outnumbered Republicans.” As my story noted, the Critical Legal Studies group consisted of left-leaning professors like Duncan Kennedy, who is a social democrat, not a Communist, and has never “believed in the overthrow of the U.S. Government.”

Among those who have taken issue with Cruz’s castigation of the Harvard Law School faculty are his former law professor, Charles Fried, who is a well-known Republican and former Solicitor General to Ronald Reagan. In his 2010 speech, Cruz had said there was only “one” Republican on the faculty, but his former professor, Fried, told The New Yorker there were at least four, including himself. A spokesman for Harvard Law School, Robb London, also described the school as “puzzled” by Cruz’s allegations.

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/02/ted-cruz-responds-harvard-law-was-full-of-communists.html
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Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
2. Come on Ted let's name names
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:43 PM
Feb 2013

It has been reported that Ted's dad fought with Castro, I wonder if Ted is a communist

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. He jumps in saying things but nothing to back himself up with, He needs to go
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:04 PM
Feb 2013

Perhaps he was seeking a reputation for himself and looks like he found one. Ibam one Texan who did not vote for him and don't see anything to change my man mind. He would show more intelligence if he would shut up.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
6. The Critical Legal Studies movement was a sort of controversial thing
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:14 PM
Feb 2013

among academics in the 1970s and 1980s. It was basically a left-ish legal theory that proposed that the law is not neutral, but instead is completely intertwined with politics, and exists only to support the interests of the class that created it; the ruling classes mainly use the law as an instrument of oppression. I was in law school (not Harvard; CLS was everywhere) when it started to become the hot academic theory; what I remember about it was not that it was extreme (we were like, duh, of course the law is used as an instrument of oppression), but that it was expressed in such academic, abstract, recondite and ungodly dull terms that nobody figured this bunch of chalk-dusted professors who probably could hardly button their corduroy blazers or tie their Hush Puppies without help could possibly be serious revolutionaries because nobody could figure out just quite what they were saying. And once you plowed through the verbiage you saw there was never even a suggestion of actual communism or violent overthrow of the government.

I doubt Cruz got through even the first couple of pages of any of these articles; if he had, he'd know these guys weren't Communists. To be fair, though, staying awake through an entire article by Duncan Kennedy or Robero Unger would be quite a challenge.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
16. I think he saw "Marx" in some form associated with CLS, and therefore...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:30 AM
Feb 2013

...it was "communism" and anyone who failed to instantly condemn it was a "communist".

Only half-jokingly, I envision him reading the name in one of those papers and instantly jumping away, reaching for a cross to thrust in front of him as if to ward off a vampire. Or maybe a flag pin... Or photo of St. Ron.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
7. I can believe there were 12 Marx influenced teachers...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:16 PM
Feb 2013

One can hope.

I can't imagine they were suggesting overthrow of the government. Cruz is doing the "mind reading people's motives" thing that right wing true believers do.

--imm

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
10. And so here we have even more proof
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:26 PM
Feb 2013

that there needs to be a sanity check for people running for office. this clown, Michele Bachman and several others... Rand Paul would never have had their names on a ballot in the first place if there was some way to test for sanity before their names ever made it to the public arena.

This sick joke of a Senator needs the pitchfork and torches treatment... like tomorrow. And on second thought, there's probably someone heavily padding his pockets for this ignorant distraction from getting the nation's work done.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
12. He won't get further than the Senate. Why? His face--not only an ugly mofo, but
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:46 AM
Feb 2013

relentlessly sneery and smug. Just my prediction--what flies in TX doesn't fly in the rest of the nicer, non-crazy America.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
13. McCarthy (1950): "The State Department is infested with communists. I have here in my hand a list of
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:12 AM
Feb 2013
205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

Cruz (2010): “There were fewer declared Republicans in the faculty (of Harvard Law School) when we were there than Communists! There was one Republican. But there were twelve who would say they were Marxists who believed in the Communists overthrowing the United States government.”

"Hey Ted! You did not invent this strategy. It's a stupid us-vs-them scare tactic that you and your GOP buddies have come to rely on. It worked for Joe McCarthy for a few years but eventually sank any political future he may have had. Open mouth, insert foot, repeat."

sendero

(28,552 posts)
15. Word is...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:16 AM
Feb 2013

.. Cruz is rapidly pissing off everyone in the senate by not knowing his place. This idiot is going to crash and burn.

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