While you are watching Oscars tonight, imagine what you would feel like if all of a sudden...

[phantom power]

No, I am not watching the Oscars either. Do not post about how you don't watch the Oscars, or I will reach through the inter-tubes and crush your wind-pipe with the power of the dark side of the force, for that is not the point of this post.

While you are watching Oscars tonight, imagine what you would feel like if all of a sudden all the houses around you blew up because someone on the other side of the world decided that the neighbor who lives down the street might have connections to terrorism. Why, I bet you’d be willing to join the cause of the people who just blew up your neighborhood. After you put the fires out and bury your neighbors, of course. Relax, those kids were collateral damage and part of the fog of war.

But then again, let’s remember- you had it coming. I mean, why else are you living where you are? Obviously you brought this on yourself and your neighbors for living down the street from someone who may or may not have been a terrorist. Shit happens, bro.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/02/24/winning-hearts-and-minds-2/

[Sekhmets Daughter]

1. I will reach through the inter-tubes and crush your wind-pipe with the power of the dark side of the

force, for that is not the point of this post. Sorry, but your intro to a serious post is hilariously funny.

[Webster Green]

2. They will launch another strike when you attempt to put the fires out.

Or when you are burying the dead.

That's just the way they operate. (From their fucking video game consoles in flyover country).

Very heroic.

[OldDem2012]

6. Case in point: The first hit on the WTC North Tower on 9/11 ...

....was by AA Flt #11 at 8:45 am EST.

18 minutes later, UA Flt #175 struck the South Tower at 9:03 am EST. The timing of the second strike was all part of their plan.

Those 18 minutes gave the world and national media the chance to train every camera they had on the WTC, and to force anyone watching to experience the horror of the second strike and the realization that this was a terrorist attack.

Those 18 minutes also gave the NYC first responders plenty of time to arrive at the WTC and for the firefighters to begin climbing up into the stricken twin towers.

The South Tower collapsed first at 10:05 am EST, followed 23 minutes later by the North Tower at 10:28.

The result? Lots of dead, lots of additional casualties, lots of people traumatized by what they had seen and heard. Terrorism 101.

So, why did W claim at least twice that he saw the FIRST impact take place, and why did he show such a notable lack of surprise when Card told him about the second attack?

[snooper2]

7. because as has been noted 48,902,287 times

George W. Bush is..



an..




idiot

[OldDem2012]

8. That's a given. Why did you repeat it one more time? nt.

[snooper2]

9. because people usually forget

the simplest solution is usually the answer

[OldDem2012]

24. Whatever. Sometimes the simplest solution is whatever the sheeple will believe. nt.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

14. Actually,....he was a tool....

I'll never forget after that aircraft carrier landing when he said he was glad they let him do it.

I thought, "WTF?? You're the one that's supposed to be in charge!"

Ever since Reagan the Republicans consider the President to be as important to running things as the Ronald McDonald clown is to the board of directors at that particular fast food giant..

[Fuddnik]

21. Moran wanted to give the impression that he actually landed it.

I've spent a lot of time on both aircraft carriers and toilet seats. That asshole would need help safely landing on a toilet seat.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. Malloy nailed it...

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/content/malloy/MalloyMemories/Wise_Quacks_and_carrier_landings.mp3

Twice.

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/content/malloy/MalloyMemories/Bush_crotchdance.mp3

[Berlum]

30. "You rang?" - George AWOL Bush (R)

[Maraya1969]

20. Notable lack of doing something also - for 7 minutes. And the GOB stoppers want

you to believe he didn't want to scare the children. I bet if he had gotten news that his own child was in a horrible car wreck he would have gotten the Hell up and made some excuse and gotten to his kid. But this; he just sat there as if someone told him what was on the lunch menu and he was making up his mind what kind of soup he wanted.

[Bake]

33. And the controller (I almost goofed and said "pilot") will get a medal for it.

A medal that is more coveted and prestigious than the ones given to soldiers for heroism on the freakin' BATTLEFIELD.



Bake

[Skidmore]

3. Lord, can we just get an hour or two

of time out from the endless outrage and railing at the heavens?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. Railing at the heavens?

This is railing at the humans.

If you want an hour or two of time out then shut of the DU or ignore the post.

[patrice]

5. Like no one knows this. Or as though the OPs are going to march right out their front door and

put an end to this stuff tonight, have not made their own deals with it, and this is somekind of clarion call to join in a specific and productive effort in that cause . . .

Not.

Nested hypotheses: Without an actual person's for real name on it and in this sequestration environment, it could be base-building advertising; that could be why it's so regular, "peace"-fad-fishing, now that peace is fashionable, for a body-count in order to make an un-disclosed career amongst whatever corporate-persons are in the bidding.

[OnyxCollie]

10. I don't remember anyone here saying that

when Bush was President.

Funny how times change.

[NYC Liberal]

19. I do remember people saying it with these kinds of threads when Bush was president.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

12. "Trash This Thread" is your friend.

Use it. I intend to.

[EastKYLiberal]

11. Oh, look... more invoking of drones in completely unrelated events.

[jtuck004]

13. But we have to leave our children something, eh? Why not bitter enemies? n/t

[Amonester]

26. Looks like our own parents left us with something similar since they did not...

nuke the entire ME, except Israel...

Our children will have plenty of enemies, bitter or not (including the exponential warming to top it off).

[jtuck004]

27. Yeah, bomb everyone into Democracy. There's a winner! n/t

[Amonester]

28. When this planet will be dying for a sip of ground water... and its coming up fast...

I predict bombs will be flying up in the air all over...

Enemies will be almost universal....

We ain't seen nothing yet.

[jtuck004]

29. That's probably true. Too bad we couldn't put our collective hate aside and learn to

work together b4 that got here.

[pasto76]

15. that analogy is complete bullshit

heard on Stand Up! last week some guy make the same comparison 'much like when people were motivated to join the US military after September 11th attacks'.



BULLSHIT.

recruiting didnt jump much in 2002. By 2003 they were already doing the shady shit reported on here so much (ie 'missing an appointment with a recruiter is a federal offense'). By 2004 they were lowering standards and lowering quotas. Even the economic collapse didnt really help recruiting all that much, considering we were running two wars.

It's fantasy. And I lived among those people for over a year. They are shockingly just like us. Yes, if your street blew up, you are going to be angry towards somebody or some country. But guess what, just like us, not many of them actually do anything about it.

this whole notion of the whole street taking up arms and becoming terrorists also lies soley on the presumption that 'muslims' are by nature a much more war like and combative people that 'americans'. Not a very progressive concept.

[MadHound]

16. Hell, we went to war with two entire countries and several non-state entities after 911

Have been at war ever since. We even fucked it up to the point where we went after two countries who had zero citizens involved in those attacks.

I think the analogy is rather apt.

[OnyxCollie]

23. From a remote-command base on the other side of the world,

Oscar parties look just like militant strategy sessions.

[aikoaiko]

17. In your hypothetical, is the Academic Awards show on or not?

These things matter.

[truth2power]

18. Well, I am watching the Oscars tonight. Zero Dark Thirty just got an award for sound editing....

It was a tie with another film. I have to keep reminding myself that they are artists, and deserve to be recognized for their work. Nevertheless, I wouldn't see the movie.

Which is the issue, here. Yes, I think all the time about what if hellfire missiles were being rained down on innocents in my neighborhood. If it were my family, I would spend the rest of my life trying to get revenge.

I am ashamed of this country and I find no pride at all in being an American. The greatest sponsor of state terrorism on this planet is the U.S.A.

[Separation]

22. I would be super pissed.

When The Walking Dead is on at the house, anything that interrupts is a capital offense.

[Auntie Bush]

31. But, But, But...I didn't watch the Oscars!!!

I'm under my bed...try and get me!

[phantom power]

32. There's always one...