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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConservative Democrat attends Jewish holiday party in BLACKFACE "basketball player" costume.
What. The. Fuck. I thought this was a hoax just now until I searched Google News. Here is Dov Hikind when he's NOT in blackface:
http://heebmagazine.com/about-that-blackface-purim-costume/43347
You see, while most Purim partiers keep their costumes within the realm of silly revelry, Assemblyman Hikind went another route. As host of a purim party in his Brooklyn home, Hikind spent the holiday dressed as a Basketball player. Sounds innocuous enough, until you realize that for Hikind, a Basketball player mean a jersey, an afro wig, and a layer of blackface makeup. As reported by Politicker, a professional makeup artist was used to transform the 62 year old Brooklyn assemblyman into this mornings Are you fucking kidding me? headline.
Hikind, a longtime powerhouse in local New York politics particularly within Brooklyns orthodox Jewish communities is no stranger to being on the wrong side of controversy. The conservative Democrat lobbied the NYPD to begin a policy of racial profiling, and recently came out against same-sex marriage, for fear that it would lead to incest. And then theres Hikinds involvement in Meir Kahanes Jewish Defense League, an FBI-listed terrorist organization which, while famous for its anti-Arab incitement, spent its early days agitating Black Panther groups in New York city. How charming.
I'm calling it right now: He gets away with it.
PB
patrice
(47,992 posts)ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)There was however a Conservative Party challenger, who I would've voted for (no choice.) Hikind still won with 97%.
The problem is that Hikind's district is mostly just cultists who perform ritual circumcisions and then have someone suck the blood resulting from the baby with their mouths, seriously. And that's not even getting started on how they treat women...unfortunately there's no chance of ousting him with anyone, even a Republican, unless his district gets chopped up (which would give undue influence to his cult in neighboring districts...), or the city quits subsidizing their lifestyle and they leave.
patrice
(47,992 posts)similar to those on the Right, but different in their own way.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I must not be very smart,
because I can't see HOW "The Left" is responsible for this.
This "Conservative Democrat" is an incumbent,
and enjoys the protection and benefits of The Party establishment.
patrice
(47,992 posts)all kinds of ways, so you can find extremists with a wide mix of other traits.
I am acquainted with lots of people whom others could refer to by means of a wide range of different labels, but I don't know of anyone specifically like BB's example, since I don't pry into things about the people I encounter and, since we're together for other reasons, they don't usually offer that kind of information and apparently are not seeking homogeneity or conformity or certain kinds of social approval in our relationships and neither am I. However, I'd have to be naive to think some of the people in my wider community are what is referred to as "average" in most regards. That's okay with me, because I care about behavior, so what people think about anything other than what we are doing together is not my concern unless it manifests in behavior such as ridicule, or other valid behavioral instances.
It really is just the "laws" of rational probabilities that for any given trait, of whatever degree/extremeness, you will find that trait distributed in various frequencies throughout different groups. It can be to some degree more highly associated with some cohorts, but that does not mean that, whatever the trait is, it is exclusive to those groups. That's the difference between labels and empirical reality. It's the sort of thing that teachers are supposed to deal with functionally and professionally. I'm in that habit, because I taught high school, but also because I am an older "tweener" in an enormous, multi-generational, family that spans a couple or three sub-levels in the middle (income) class.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)How did you get from THAT^
to THIS?
... or did the irresistible urge to Bash the Left just overwhelm you,
and you couldn't pass up the opportunity
no matter HOW irrational?
patrice
(47,992 posts)is 0 probability that what calls itself "the Left" (especially in an anonymous environment like the internet) has any extremist traits in any degree whatsoever, and that there is 0 probability that any of said traits could produce what at least appears to be, or could outright actually be, intolerance toward different others, and that there is 0 probability that those intolerant behaviors could be dysfunctional for themselves and/or for those different others in any way? Or are you saying that none of that matters?
Is it good for people to just stand by while the truth is accidentally or intentionally obfuscated? Isn't that called Plausible Deniability? If it's only one or a few hurting or handicapping others, accidentally or intentionally, is that okay if the doers are wearing the right label? belong to the right power clique? I know there isn't that much that most of us can do to change others, because they must change themselves, but that doesn't mean that we should accept taboos that amount to "see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil" and presto-chango everything is okay. The opposite of such social taboo-observance is called a "peace check" in some affinity cohorts, but such honest reality testing behaviors also have their places in many other kinds of collective endeavors, such as quality assurance, professional de-briefings, and any other effort to break group-think. Am I supposed to believe that what calls itself "the Left" engages so honestly and completely in this kind of self-reality testing and, hence, has no mis-understandings or negative intent of the same type as that characterized in OP, simply because someone says it is "the Left"? Believe it or not, I actually have seen real reasons in the real world that justify these questions.
Sorry about all of the questions, though, I'm struggling with why it appears that you don't understand the assumptions behind false dichotomies like "Left" good, Right bad, so all we have to do is divide up in our respective camps, whether they are actually authentically one's affinity group or not, and problems solved. It's such an obvious oversimplification of real flesh and blood and extremely complex humans; it's disrespectful of their humanity.
If you really care what my frame of reference is here, I'd like to suggest readings in cognitive development and including the biology of behavior, but a more specific reference for an applied form of those phenomena can be seen dating from Aristotle's Lyceum, through J.J. Rousseau's Emil, and can be seen in the learning theories of John Dewey and, most particularly in Paulo Freire's Pedagogy of the Oppressed especially in his references to what he called praxis, which is grounded in just being aware of how one internalizes the oppressor.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)....couldn't resist the knee jerk Left Bashing.
Got It!
patrice
(47,992 posts)might deign to be gracious enough to give it to you, but your claim of privilege does not require anything from anyone else, because people really are free to have our own thoughts whether you agree or not.
Ask anyone who has been around the streets, what calls itself "the left" appears to have rather strong elitist and fascistic tendencies.
ALL of us have our power inclinations, but the most insidious are those who refuse to admit that about themselves in the name of ideological purity.
FOUR fingers!!!!
bvar22
(39,909 posts)when you reflexively and erroneously Bashed-the-Left prior to investigation
in your original post.
Your ideological purity slur is noted.
That is a desperate attack that amounts to surrender for someone who knows they have NO cogent argument.
Those who disparage Pure Ideals lack a Moral Compass.
I will continue to push for movement toward the Pure Ideal of Traditional Democratic Party Values,
and use those Pure Ideals to measure progress, or lack of progress.
Among these are:
*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
*The right of every family to a decent home;
*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
*The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being."---FDR
--bvar22
not ashamed to STAND with FDR for the above Pure Ideals.
Of course, you and the other "Centrists" are free to STAND for whatever they tell you is In-the-Middle.
Centrism!!!.... because it is so EASY!
You don't have to STAND for ANYTHING,
and get to insult those who DO!
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)He's a member of an Orthodox religion that I guess believes they are "conservative" for performing ancient rituals that sound like they should get you arrested. But either way, they aren't "lefties".
patrice
(47,992 posts)with "Lefties" who weren't making it real at the polls.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Talk about doubling-down on the stupid...
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/NY-assemblyman-stands-by-blackface-Afro-costume-4306410.php
Democratic Assemblyman Dov Hikind wrote on his blog Monday that he doesn't understand the criticism swirling around Albany and doesn't know why anyone would be offended by the costume he wore to a party he recently held at his home in Brooklyn to celebrate the Jewish holiday of Purim.
Hikind hired a makeup artist and wore an orange basketball jersey, sunglasses and an Afro at the celebration that traditionally includes costumes.
"I am intrigued that anyone who understands Purim or for that matter understands me would have a problem with this," said Hikind, a Jewish leader in New York. "This is political correctness to the absurd. There is not a prejudiced bone in my body."
Nomatter. He could go out and give a press conference about in blackface- and he'll still get away with it.
PB
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Hmmm.
All in good fun, yanno.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)...designer John Galliano was photographed leaving his apartment in what Dov Hikind perceived to be clothing which was loosely similar to hasidic attire.
I'll let Failed Messiah blog pick it up from there:
But thankfully, we do have a pretty good idea of what Hikind would do if a non-Jew dressed in a way that could be understood to be play on hasidic attire, because the issue came up two weeks ago when designer John Galliano (left) did just that, enraging Hikind.
And when Hikind is enraged, he spews.
Who is he mocking?. The way the socks look, the jacket, the peyos . . . My question is, whos he laughing at?
If it was just anyone else, I wouldnt know what to say. But considering who this guy is, considering his background and what hes said in the past, let him explain it to all of us: Are you mocking us?, Hikind blustered to the New York Post.
It turned out that Galliano was wearing other designers' clothing and was not trying to make fun of hasidim. Even Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League came to Galliano's defense.
But Hikind did not apologize for his outburst.
When Abe Foxman is coming to John Galliano's defense over some accusation you made, you know you've crossed the line!
PB
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)typical entitled, hypocrite.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Not knowing Galliano's history I would have said that he was just dressed very oddly, but since I do know some of his stupidity, seemed more than slightly mocking.
Hikind is the worst type of politician.
cali
(114,904 posts)is also pretty grotesque.
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Galliano was convicted in France of making racist slurs after a 2011 rant caught on video in which he hurled insults at a group of Italian women in a Paris bar, saying, I love Hitler... People like you would be dead. Your mothers, your forefathers would all be [expletive] gassed. This incident happened just before Paris Fashion Week for Autumn/Winter 2011-12.
<snip>
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)Hasid is the singular.
Hard Assets
(274 posts)and I *know* he's an idiot.
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)I wonder what the non-Hasids are like in that district, must be a weird place for them.
Hard Assets
(274 posts)Many of my cousins are Hasidic (including my uncle in Lakewood, NJ).
My in-laws are more of the traditional Orthodox side.. and live in Boro Park.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Geez, what a moran.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)so not surprising.
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Dumb-de-dumb-dumb--- Dumb!
sakabatou
(42,155 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)The local report of his 'apology' is jaw-dropping as well.
It was not meant to hurt anyone, Hikind said at a Monday afternoon news conference, And to those who were? Im sorry.
...
The idea was to look out-of-character, to look different, for people not to recognize me, Hikind told 1010 WINS. If I had to do it all over again Id do exactly the same thing, without a doubt.
Hikind said he is flabbergasted by the reaction his costume has received and said everything was done in good taste.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Heywood J
(2,515 posts)is that an ass crack under the orange thing?
I wonder what he thought of Prince Harry's Halloween get-up? After all, Harry said it was all in fun.