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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/25/1636621/cnn-host-schools-bobby-jindal-for-spouting-misleading-economic-nonsense/
CNN Host Schools Bobby Jindal For Spouting Misleading Economic Nonsense
By Igor Volsky posted from ThinkProgress Economy on Feb 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm
CNN business correspondent Ali Velshi slammed Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) for likening the federal budget to family spending and suggesting that the Obama administration should not spend more than the government takes in.
Every family has to balance their budget, isnt allowed to spend more than they need, every business is more efficient, tighten their belt. The reality is it can be done, Jindal said in remarks outside of the White House on Monday, following a meeting between the National Governors Association and President Obama. He added that the administration can implement the automatic across-the-borad sequestration cuts that are likely to go into effect on March 1 without jeopardizing the economy or critical services by focusing on wasteful spending.
Velshi rejected Jindals comparison as misleading nonsense and pointed out that businesses and families routinely borrow money to invest in their futures, reasoning that an investment made today in college education or a new equipment can lead to greater returns down the road:
Watch it @ link~
The federal economy is fundamentally different from household budgets and economic data and history suggest that the government should be spending more, not less given the current economic circumstances. After all, overall government spending has plateaued under Obama after rising sharply under George W. Bush and the resulting fiscal contraction has resulted in a lower recovery.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)$100Billion on repairing a bridge only after it has collapsed into the river with hundreds of cars on it than spend $20Billion repairing it before hand.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)...and tax cuts for those who need it the least at the expense of everyone else.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Obama has put forward a plan that makes serious cuts and does prioritize the cuts in ways that will be least harmful to the economy and the American people. And it also closes just a few of the many loopholes that Ryan and Romney were so vocal about jest 4 months ago. Don't forget that Romney was planning to balance the whole budget by eliminating loopholes that mostly favor the rich. He said that over and over.
Election is over. The people decided. Let's get on with it.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Book it.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)southern_belle
(1,647 posts)babylonsister!
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)money on some level. If it were otherwise, the entire economy would grind to a halt.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Our entire economy would crash if credit was no longer used.
red dog 1
(27,817 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Because Jindal thinks that government should live within its means.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Response to babylonsister (Original post)
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Lex
(34,108 posts)"Acquiring new debt makes lots of sense when it's an investment in the future . . . "
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babylonsister
(171,070 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)because they've paid off the house they bought. You won't be able to convince them that their decision to borrow money to buy a house wasn't an investment in their future.
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Cheviteau
(383 posts)is an ongoing expense. That monthly expense is called "housing". Otherwise we'd all be renting and that is a monthly expense also. So we buy a home as an investment. Therefore, we add long term debt to cover ongoing expenses. See? It's simple. The comparison is appropriate and informative.
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TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)No new warehouses. Nary a tractor or drill press.
It isn't investing in our people either, unemployment insurance, food stamps, WIC, and all of that is fairly minor. NASA gets about a half a fucking peanut. Non-military/security research gets the other half. We spend a fair little chunk on education but it seems largely to be spent to destroy rather than invest. The Arts? You jest! Masterpiece Theater best eat their peas!
Meanwhile, revenue really more or less only covers the on the budget and on the books military spending which means even if the military spending was zero we'd still have deficits and much of it would seem to be crap as well.
You are likely to spin in circles with a lot of folks. Democrats are shifting taxaphobic as well unless it is some bullshit "sin" tax, restrained nibbles at the wealthiest, and apparently weird tithes to predatory corporations supposedly to "keep them in check" and "curb their worst excesses".
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)that we must cut taxes on the rich in order to grow the economy and ignore the deficit and debt.
VA_Jill
(9,983 posts)has screwed up Louisiana's economy even worse than it already was and now spends his time running around the country pontificating and trying to avoid his constituents.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Of the bill because the President does not have the authority to pick and choose what spending he will cut because it was designed as across the board in nature to make it unpalatable and thus would never go into effect. Now if Jindal supports a new bill to give the President that authority that would be something else but I don't see where he is calling for that. Instead, he is just saying stupid stuff.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Generating more income and borrowing are certainly known to every family.
But, it's good that the TV idiots do, on occasion, point out the obvious, rather than sit silently between one Republican telling his or her version and one Democrat telling his or her version.
It's not all about competing idea (read competing propaganda)
Facts do still matter, regardless of the formats the television idiots choose to adopt.
ThomThom
(1,486 posts)mainly you and your rich republican't friends and craperations
someone should tell him to shut the fuck up
Democrats_win
(6,539 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:39 PM - Edit history (1)
I thought only old backward conservatives repeated that bromide. I first heard it when Reagan was running and it was totally false. First, as noted above, household do have debt and second, it's a straw-man argument because households are not the federal government. Today, most young conservatives understand the difference and don't repeat such nonsense.
The ironic and tragic twist is that BECAUSE of Reagan, household debt increased dramatically. Reagan always lied to us.
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, babylonsister.