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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums1 Day Late on Rent Can Land You in Jail? A Shockingly Draconian Renters Law (Hard Times USA)
http://www.alternet.org/hard-times-usa/1-day-late-rent-can-land-you-jail-shockingly-draconian-renters-law-hard-times-usaOne evening this past August, Angela and Steve received a knock on the door. The couple opened it to see two police officers standing outside.
One of them said, We have a warrant for yalls arrest. The next thing I remember is my husband dragging me from the kitchen. I had fainted, Angela recalled, according to Human Rights Watch.
Their crime? The couple was unable to afford their $585 rent payment that month.
Two weeks after their rent was due, Steve approached their landlord with half of the money for the rent, but she wouldnt take it.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)if the 10 day notice is a court document?
In my state eviction is a civil procedure with no criminal penalty until/unless the tenant(s) ignore a court order, or become violent during the eviction process. A "10 day notice" is part of the eviction process here. The notice is not part of a court case unless the tenant does not vacate during the 10 days. Then the landlord files a civil case against the tenant. Part of the civil filing is a copy of the 10 day notice and when/who it was served or posted. After the filing an order for appearance is issued, usually between several days and a month from the filing..this must be personally served or posted..many judges are open to hear service disputes if this paper is served/posted by the landlord as opposed to an officer of the court. If the tenant appears the judge will listen to their pleas and will determine a date by which the residence must be vacated. If the tenant does not appear, the court will usually issue an order for immediate eviction. The eviction order must be served by an officer of the court and is immediate upon service. Often, probably 75% of the time, when the tenant did not appear, by the time I would get there with the eviction order, the tenant was already out and I would simply call the landlord to change the locks or call a locksmith and post the notice of trespass if the tenant returns without making arrangements with the landlord. If the person refuses to leave at this time they can be cited for contempt or several other misdemeanor possibilities (failure to comply, disorderly conduct, impairing official duty, etc). All this takes a month or 2 at best..there is no criminal penalty for failure to pay any debt including rent.
Sounds like AR needs a civil procedure overhaul..
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Failure to pay rent or to pay rent on time, for any reason, is grounds for eviction. There are two types of eviction procedures a landlord can use: unlawful detainer (a civil eviction) and failure to vacate (a criminal eviction).
Unlawful Detainer: If a landlord uses the unlawful detainer method of eviction, he must give you three days written notice to vacate. If you do not leave, the landlord can sue by filing a complaint against you in court. After you receive a summons to appear in court, you have five days to object in writing to the eviction. Any objection must be filed with the clerk of the court in which the eviction action was filed, and you should send a copy of your objection to the landlords lawyer. If you do not file an objection, you can be removed from the dwelling by the county sheriff. If you do object, a hearing will be scheduled to determine the outcome to your case.
Failure to Vacate: If a landlord wishes to use the failure to vacate method of eviction, he must give you 10days written notice. This method of eviction applies only to non-payment of rent. If you do not leave the premises within 10 days, the prosecuting attorney has the discretion to charge you with a misdemeanor. You would then be required to appear in court where you could be fined up to $25 for each day you remained in the dwelling after being given the 10-day notice to vacate.
http://gotyourbackarkansas.org/home/landlordtenant-rights-guide/
pipoman
(16,038 posts)statute is unusual I believe..it seems almost ex parte, I suspect in most states an eviction can reach the criminal level, but requires more than a request for a warrant by a landlord..
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)"If a tenant does not move when asked to, or leaves personal possessions in a rental apartment, the landlord may file criminal charges or sell the tenant's abandoned possessions."
Read more: How to Evict a Tenant in Kansas | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6563460_evict-tenant-kansas.html#ixzz2M4DUuCew
I suspect lots of other states also have similar laws on the books.
I should also add that the "criminal" aspect of the Arkansas law, as explained at the state attorney general's web site, seems to be a fine. Nowhere is there any mention of jail time.
One more thing-- the article in the OP mentions first names only-- no last names, and no city. If these people were actually sent to jail just for failure to pay rent, then that would seem to be in violation of the law.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)I have served hundreds of eviction notices (in Kansas) of all types for major property managers and have never heard of this. In fact if I, as the agent of the landlord, went to a property in, say, Wichita and try to kick someone out without a court order signed by a district court judge, the police will evict the evictor(sic)..either something has changed since 7 years ago when I left that 20 year career, or this is an example of why one shouldn't get their legal advice from e-how..
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)A lot can happen during that time. The Arkansas law that is the object of the OP, for example, was passed 6 years ago.
At any rate, the eHow information about Kansas does seem to be an exaggeration, just like the claim in the OP that being one day late with a rent payment, or being late with a rent payment at all, in Arkansas is grounds for getting thrown in jail.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)no one gos o jail for being late with their rent.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)And some are held until trial.
"And because the law is poorly written, judges improvise the punishment. Some try to avoid handing out charges and give tenants an extra week to move out. But others regularly hand out fines of $400 or detain tenants before trial. Human Rights Watch witnessed one district judge yell at an accused renter and compare her to a bank robber. "
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)the HRW report is great propaganda, but provides little help to people who might actually need legal help.
What I found frustrating about the report--and I suggest you read it, as opposed to just the article--is that it contains very little practical information as to what remedy is available.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)reported on by Alternet.
cali
(114,904 posts)<snip>
Arkansas is the only U.S. state where tenants can wind up with a criminal record if they cant afford to pay their rent on time. The states failure to vacate" laws allow landlords, without independent investigation, to charge tenants with a misdemeanor offense and have them arrested if they fail to move out after receiving a 10-day eviction notice. Landlords can give tenants the notice after they are only one day late with their payment.
The reason Arkansas has such harsh tenant laws dates back to 2007, when the Residential Landlord and Tenant Act passed, stripping landlords of many responsibilities while burdening tenants. Currently, while tenants are supposed to properly dispose of waste, landlords have no obligation to provide them with garbage receptacles. Landlords are also not required to provide tenants with safe or sanitary property; they are, however, allowed to enter their tenants property whenever they deem fit.
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ck4829
(35,077 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)but can get you a failure to vacate writ, 10 days later, the penalty for which is a fine. I like Alternet less and less as time passes.
frylock
(34,825 posts)this law is bullshit.
dmallind
(10,437 posts)These questions must have definite answers, or the vast majority of people would simply stop paying rent. What would your answers be as an owner?
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)If a tenant doesn't pay rent you can file a complaint with a court and let the court set an eviction date. There is no need to criminalize a contractual debt. My bet is that if someone challenged this law it would be found unconstitutional. The trouble is that poor people who don't pay rent can't afford lawyers to challenge laws. Hopefully someone like the ACLU will step in and try to right this wrong.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)for pointing out the obfuscation going on here, and bringing the thread back to the real point: that *criminal* charges are unnecessary, vicious, and outrageous.
It is utterly nauseating to see the DU Corporate Brigade lining up so rapidly to try to drown this thread in outrageous excuses for bringing criminal charges against the poor.
We are in deep, deep peril in this country. Our corporate nation has sold its moral center, and we are relentlessly propagandized to accept the unconscionable.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)AR, has a means for physical eviction..the distinction here is that there is a criminal statute for merely not vacating within 10 days after notice is served. Most (if not all) other states have more grace built into the process than AR and staying through the process isn't criminal.
frylock
(34,825 posts)but i'm kinda funny that way in that my life isn't driven by absolute greed and love of money.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Ten days after being notified and then not leaving.
"Not Leaving" is the operative phrase. Being late paying the rent is not the reason they get arrested.
frylock
(34,825 posts)someone struggling to make rent? are you on the right site? because that is fucking heartless. shit, people get 30 days here. but fuck it. are there no workhouses? are there no debtors prisons? welcome to the fucking big tent I guess.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)But we do agree that the headline is inaccurate. And that is what my post is about.
frylock
(34,825 posts)it was sensationalized as many headlines tend to be. doesn't change the fact that the law is draconian bullshit.
frylock
(34,825 posts)big tent!
Peter cotton
(380 posts)These people hadn't vacated after receiving an eviction notice.
frylock
(34,825 posts)gawd I love the compassion on display at this site. it just oozes like sweat after a three-day meth binge.
Peter cotton
(380 posts)Was anything I said in post #24 incorrect?
frylock
(34,825 posts)and we've ascertained about 15 posts ago that it is indeed inaccurate. I guess that nobody is very comfortable addressing the issue as to whether 10 days is ample time to find a new place and vacate the current premises. having had 30 days to accomplish such a feat, through no fault of my own mind you, I found it to be a rather daunting and stressful task. and that was being fully employed with plenty of money to lay down for first/last months rent, renting a truck, and establishing utilities. clearly, someone in this situation, who offered their asshole landlord half the rent, does not have that luxury. I find that those focusing on the hyperbole of the headline seem to miss the point in spectacular fashion. but maybe everyone here is a copy editor. idk.
dsc
(52,162 posts)it takes 10 days. I do think the law is horrible but we shouldn't tell stories we like instead of the truth.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)For trespassing. The process and time required vary from state to state.