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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:19 PM Feb 2013

'Cannibal Cop' Lawyer Slams Charges as Thought Policing

'Cannibal Cop' Lawyer Slams Charges as Thought Policing


MANHATTAN (CN) - The case of a so-called "cannibal cop" is about the "freedom to write even the darkest thoughts of the human imagination," a defense attorney told federal jurors Monday.

Gilberto Valle, the 28-year-old New York City Police Department officer, acknowledges that he repeatedly logged onto the website Darkfetishnet.com to chat with other men about kidnapping, raping, torturing and eating women.

The parties disagree about whether the contents of his chats are evidence of a criminal conspiracy or constitutionally protected speech.

His lawyer, Julia Gatto, told the jury that more than 38,000 other men and women are Darkfetishnet members, and they often discuss fantasies on the website that would be illegal to try in real life.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/02/25/55164.htm

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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
1. This case will turn on a single fact, which if proven to the jury, will result in a conviction:
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:26 PM
Feb 2013
Valle is also accused of breaking into a national crime database to profile his victims.


Prove that, and you go beyond fantasy and free speech.
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
3. Well, that one fact, if proven, is no gray area. The prosecution proves that he acted against real
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:39 PM
Feb 2013

women...then he's done.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. I'm sorry - I was inarticulate
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:41 PM
Feb 2013

Once you actually do it it's clearly black and white. Even abusing his access to the data bases should cost him his job.

I was thinking more about how many sexual fantasies people might have that would be immoral or illegal - unless performed with consenting adults of course.

Bryant

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. Then there is the agreement to kidnap a woman.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:59 PM
Feb 2013

Which apparently was stalled due to no payment made.

If the website was talking about underage kids,
would the defense argument hold water then?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. That and the wife could give some detailed insights to his "erratic" behavior
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:17 PM
Feb 2013

Assuming she decides to testify...

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
7. His wife bascially claimed that he began asking her questions such as
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:39 PM
Feb 2013

Where she liked to go jogging, what kind of lighting there was around there, how many people did she normally see while jogging, ect. Now combine that with the misuse of law enforcement computer databases, and I'd say this goes just a little beyond simple fantasy.

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