A "good guy" with a gun?

[kentuck]

From Colorado Springs, nonetheless... His emails:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/franklin-sain-arrested-fo_n_2767266.html

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THANKS N----- C---! You really think passing any more laws will stop gun violence? You and that other N----- OBAMA are living in fantasy land. Chicago and DC have the most strict gun laws in the nation and more people die from gun violence than anywhere. You f---ing c---s are pathetic excuse for civil servants. Hell, n-----s love shooting themselves with GATS, isn't that what your people call it. What you have done here is creater criminals out of law abiding citizens, and put yourself out of a job. You politicians have no idea what you are even doing anyway, do you know how long it takes some to change a magazine, less than a second, so what if some with experience decides to flip out and bring their gun in with 5 or so 10 round magazines, they can do the same amount of damage. Limiting magazine sizes is stupididty, [sic] and will not work. I for one have 100+ 30 ronds mags and 150 round drums. I will never give those up and I am far from being some whack job. What I am pissed off at c--- n------ who know nothing about what they are doing and knee jerk react rather than look for a solution to fix the problem and enforce existing laws. We will all work very hard to ensure there is no job for you 2014. We will make it our mission to ensure each Democrat who supports this law is also out of a job.

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Do you actually think that Americans will put up with this... I gurantee there is not enough law enforcement, or military to stop an all out overthrow of this government if you or that N----- President tries to take our guns... Guarantee we will make World War I and II look like childs play, many will die... be prepared...

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Watching you live, you are a pathetic N----- C--- alnog with MCCANN, two c---- who are way overdue a good f---ing... and hopefully somebody Gifords both of your asses with a gun....... you are both pieces of monkey sh-- who have no right or reason to be in the position you are.... f--- off c---......

[Historic NY]

1. Amazing how many are out there armed thinking the 2nd Amendment trumps the 1st....

he must be a big NRA supporter.

[Bjorn Against]

2. "I am far from being some whack job"

Yeah sure buddy, I can't see any sign of whack job in you at all.

[kentuck]

4. My thoughts exactly!

How can this nut get his hands on so many guns and "mags"??

[Bjorn Against]

6. Because the NRA has worked hard to ensure any whack job can get their hands on an arsenal.

[Heather MC]

5. mental note. if you have to tell people you are not a whack job. Chances are

you are a Whack Job

[hlthe2b]

3. He, along with Wayne LaPierre pretty much seals the "Insane Guys with Guns" vote...

Good Gawd.... Disgusted, but not surprised (unfortunately)

[valiberal26]

7. The only good man with a gun...

Is wearing a government uniform. There might be a few bad police officers or military personnel, and there might be a few good armed civilians; but the OP shows why I viewed armed citizens as nothing less than dire threats to an established government.

Aside from the fact that lawful violence is the domain of the state; this illustrates why civilian disarmament is the only logical end to the gun control debate. Having a weapon brings the wielder the mindset that 'he can take care of himself'; be it as innocuous as hunting, or as subversive as advocating violence against a lawful government, or in between. I am sure that the man quoted above wouldn't be as brash as he is if he was armed only with a stick or a rock. Likely he'd take his complaints to be heard through more proper channels, or he'd seek some other means of peaceful disagreement.

[ThatPoetGuy]

15. Welcome to DU!

[NoGOPZone]

8. stupididty? nt

[Heather MC]

9. HahaHa This "moran" works for a minority owned business

me thinks boss man is gonna fire his ass ha ha ha ha

SofTec Solutions, Inc. has been informed of allegations against our employee, Mr. Frank Sain. We are shocked to learn of these allegations and are taking this matter very seriously. If true, these actions are highly inappropriate and will not be tolerated. Pending SofTec’s investigation into this matter, Mr. Sain has been suspended immediately from further duties at SofTec. SofTec Solutions is a minority-owned, small business and we employ a large diverse workforce. We will absolutely not tolerate any racial, sexual, gender-based slurs or threats of violence by employees

[one_voice]

10. One of the NRAs top...

members, no doubt.

[rdharma]

13. Probably a life member........

.... and will continue to get his monthly issue of "American Rifleman" magazine in the hoosegow!

[Hoyt]

11. That guy thinks like a high percentage that carry and accumulate lethal weapons.

[rdharma]

12. This SOB had a concealed weapons permit.....

Issued by CO El Paso County Sheriff.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

14. "I am far from being some whack job"

The dude's last name is just bitterly ironic.

[Ghost in the Machine]

16. Sorry, but no, that is NOT a "good guy" with a gun, if these allegations are true...

He claims to have sent emails, but not *those* emails:

The affidavit goes on to describe threatening voicemail messages allegedly left by Sain. However, Sain, in the affidavit, told police that although he does use the email that the threatening, racist emails came from and admitted to sending the Colorado lawmaker emails, he claims he did not make any threats in those emails. "I did not make any threats in my emails," Sain stated to the police. "I know my emails are traceable and I wouldn't have done that... I'm just voicing some frustrations about a topic I consider sacred, especially after wearing a uniform and fighting for this country. When you have media pushing blame on gun owners, that just brings my emotions out."

Sain also said that sent some of the emails while watching Rep. Fields on television, but Sain denied that he used such explicit language and also denied that he was a racist. "I don't use words like that. C--- and other racist names, I don't sue that word when I talk. I'm not a racist. Those emails are not who I am."

{same link as OP}...

If the emails came from a work computer, it *is* remotely possible someone else could have sent them, maybe to set him up as some sort of revenge for some past transgression or something, but if they came from a *home* computer, I would say all bets were off. The first thing *I* would do, if it's a work computer, is compare the timestamps on the emails to his time card to see if he was even there when the emails were sent. A smart phone and his home computer couls be forensically checked to see if the emails came from either, if he had access to his work email from anywhere else.

Just playing Devils Advocate here, because back about 10-12 years ago, I could hack just about any computer I wanted to, and send things from their email and it came back to them. It's just much easier to use someone elses computer at work if they aren't around.

If it turns out he *did* send those emails, then he deserves any jail time he gets, and shouldn't be allowed to own a weapon.

Peace,

Ghost