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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat a black man-born 1948 in Pin Point, GA-could be party to such a ruling simply boggles the mind
SCOTUSBlog warns us that we should expect another 5-4 ruling, one that strikes Section 5 from the books. That's their preliminary analysis after listening to oral arguments today. They don't think preclearance will be ruled completely unconstitutional, but the law will have to be redrafted somehow if we're going to salvage anything.
Following through on the deep constitutional concerns stated in its prior Northwest Austin decision, a majority of the Court seems committed to invalidating Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act and requiring Congress to revisit the formula for requiring preclearance of voting changes. The vote seems quite likely to be five to four. The more liberal members pressed both the narrow argument that an Alabama county was not a proper plaintiff because it inevitably would be covered and the broader argument that there was a sufficient record to justify the current formula. But the more conservative majority was plainly not persuaded by either point. It is unlikely that the Court will write an opinion forbidding a preclearance regime. But it may be difficult politically for Congress to enact a new measure. More analysis soon.
- See more at: http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/02/from-the-shelby-county-argument/
That a black man, born in 1948 in Pin Point, Georgia, could be a party to such a ruling simply boggles the mind and takes self-loathing to a level probably not seen before outside of an asylum.
- See more at: http://www.boomantribune.com/#sthash.4Hl3Fdoi.dpuf
http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/02/from-the-shelby-county-argument/
zappaman
(20,606 posts)UTUSN
(70,696 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)if it weren't for people fighting for his rights.
LoisB
(7,206 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)warrant46
(2,205 posts)as Anita Hill alleged that Thomas had mentioned to her that he was a viewer of Long Dong Silver's films.[3][4][5][6][7]
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)mimi85
(1,805 posts)I watched almost every minute of the hearings at the time. I was really stunned when he was confirmed. He's one of those people you get that "gut feeling" about right from the beginning. Ha, I had the same feeling about Tiger Woods and Lance Armstrong - and my daughter's current boyfriend.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Just like all those conservative businessmen did it all themselves. They built their own grade schools & then worked their way through them. Same with high school & college.
Then they built the highways that their truck fleets run on.
So get off Clarence's case, why dontcha, huh?
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)get there on his own. Yes he had the grades. Many people went before him. You can think want you want, its a free country.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)to the sarcasm thingie
Skittles
(153,163 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)He's a Sarcastrian, from the planet Sarco, which has three moons, Snark, Skep and Cyn.
He also has a holodeck in his house.
That's why almost everyone likes him - He throws great parties on the holodeck and you don't get a hangover.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)No more holodeck orgies for you.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Skittles
(153,163 posts)he seems to be unable to recognize sarcasm in written form, only in spoken form - maybe some people need the verbal cues
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Skittles
(153,163 posts)yes INDEED
by the way, that coworker is brilliant tech-wise, which is what counts where I work
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)only use the : punctuation marks with no little hyphens,
thus:
I generally don't like using it, though, because I always assume (often wrongly, obviously) that people should "get it" without the cue, and it seems almost insulting to attach the tag.
It might not be bad for you to practice recognizing sarcasm, though. Like, if something sounds really ridiculous or outrageous, maybe you ought to consider the idea that it might not be a straightforward assertion.
Maybe practice on Stephen Colbert's stuff, for example.
Also, anything Manny Goldstein posts on DU and signs "Third-Way Manny" is invariably sarcastic, although many people seem to miss the fact.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)everyone a good laugh. Everyone made a comment. I didn't get it. I made everyone day on that one. I fall very easy for things. I get Colbert Report very easy because I watch it. Sometimes I do get it. But it has to be out there. But I like your suggestion and I think I will use it. That is if I can remember it. LOL
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)You may not have grown up or lived around people who use it a lot, for example.
For all I know, it could be a regional thing.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)It also could be a regional thing. I lived all over the united states. Who knows, LOL. If you tell me something I will believe you usually. My husband told me am to trusting. He may be right. I have been burnt a couple of time lending people money. But finally learned to stop that.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)who are Nigerian princes?
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Lagos, Nigeria.
Attention: The President/CEO
Dear Sir,
Confidential Business Proposal
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We are now ready to transfer the fund overseas and that is where you come in. It is important to inform you that as civil servants, we are forbidden to operate a foreign account; that is why we require your assistance. The total sum will be shared as follows: 70% for us, 25% for you and 5% for local and international expenses incidental to the transfer.
The transfer is risk free on both sides. I am an accountant with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC). If you find this proposal acceptable, we shall require the following documents:
(a) your banker's name, telephone, account and fax numbers.
(b) your private telephone and fax numbers for confidentiality and easy communication.
(c) your letter-headed paper stamped and signed.
Alternatively we will furnish you with the text of what to type into your letter-headed paper, along with a breakdown explaining, comprehensively what we require of you. The business will take us thirty (30) working days to accomplish.
Please reply urgently.
Best regards
Howgul Abul Arhu
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)get an email I don't recognize I delete it. I don't read email from people I don't know. I only email family members and very few friends. If I email a DU I do it on here. I have heard about this kind of letter as I have seen people suing their friends of Judge Judy. What I have learned if it sounds to good to be true it is something I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. You had me there for a minute. Never heard of the Princes.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)was the same way. She had a charming naiveté - sure do miss her (car accident).
Ha, good ole Judge Judy. I was stunned when I found out she makes around $45 million A YEAR!
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)twin sister and 2 other sisters and one brother and one brother who died of cancer. They live in another state. I talk to my twin every day. I mean every day. Sometimes its more. That naivete' is about right with me and my mother. She was a character. $45 million is sure alot of money. You couldn't pay me to stand in front of her court unless I knew I had a strong, strong, strong case. LOL
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)There's all kinds of hysterical stuff in there. Just don't click on any of it. LOL
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Just enough to get myself in trouble. Is that the same as junk mail? Cause I do have that. I never open it I just delete because I don't recognize the senders.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Yeah, you should stay out of it, then.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Don't worry I won't do that.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)While I will say that he was qualified, though thinly, for the position he clearly benefited from a boost from affirmative action based on his body of work. He simply pulled up the ladder after him, turning on those in need. That was always the risk with affirmative action.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)ladder up behind him.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)It's a more accurate reflection of what we truly value as a country and it doesn't take as long to say or type.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)Think Sawyer from LOST
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)if you have ever been to Pin Point. I have, many times (my grandparents retired to Skidaway Island, which is down the road). When you hear someone is "dirt poor," that's what this is. Just shacks in the woods, next to a swamp, surrounded by chicken wire. And at the entrance a plaque honoring Thomas. This is a view from the road:
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:20 AM - Edit history (1)
They did a very nice job with it. The museum and tour is a nice 2 hour event if someone wishes to visit and learn more about Pin Point and the geechee.
But what you say is true. Pin Point has always been a poor enclave. Many of the inhabitants are the marsh version of "dirt farmers". Growing, hunting, and collecting all their food for survival -- not for sale.
The factory processed crab and oysters and provided families with an actual paycheck. Picking crabs and sucking oysters was a step up that supplemented subsistence agri/aquaculture, but still the pay and working conditions were not great.
The experiences of those who grew up during desegregation at Pin Point are complex. To see the shacks and trailors, Thomas boggles the mind, but to talk to people who grew up in Pin Point during desegregation one can "almost" see how that experience could form a Thomas.
VA_Jill
(9,975 posts)and not so long ago, we'd have called him an Oreo...brown on the outside, white on the inside.
JustAnotherGen
(31,827 posts)I hate the s.o.b. - but back in the day that was also lodged at any person of color of the 'mulatto' or 'mulatta' version. I had to throw a few punches on the playground because of that in late 1970's and early 1980's.
He's not that - that is just a way for someone to ask "Why do you talk white?"
Stick to - he's an ignorant repitilian son of a bitch that is too wet to step on and way too damn low to kick.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)That are still affected by that?
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)The jurisdictions listed below must be precleared:
States
Alabama, except for the city of Pinson
Alaska
Arizona
Georgia, except for the city of Sandy Springs
Louisiana
Mississippi
South Carolina
Texas, except for Jefferson County Drainage District Number Seven and Northwest Austin Municipal Utility District Number One
Virginia, except for 24 counties (Amherst, Augusta, Bedford, Botetourt, Carroll, Craig, Culpeper, Essex, Frederick, Grayson, Greene, James City, King George, Middlesex, Page, Prince William, Pulaski, Rappahanock, Roanoke, Rockingham, Shenandoah, Washington, Warren, and Wythe) and six independent cities (Fairfax, Harrisonburg, Manassas Park, Salem, Williamsburg, and Winchester)
[edit]Counties
California: Kings (except for Alta Irrigation District), Monterey, Yuba (except for Browns Valley Irrigation District)
Florida: Collier, Hardee, Hendry, Hillsborough, Monroe
New York: Bronx, Kings (Brooklyn), New York (Manhattan)
North Carolina: Anson, Beaufort, Bertie, Bladen, Camden, Caswell, Chowan, Cleveland (except for the city of Kings Mountain), Craven, Cumberland, Edgecombe, Franklin, Gaston, Gates, Granville, Greene, Guilford, Halifax, Harnett, Hertford, Hoke, Jackson, Lee, Lenoir, Martin, Nash, Northampton, Onslow, Pasquotank, Perquimans, Person, Pitt, Robeson, Rockingham, Scotland, Union, Vance, Washington, Wayne, Wilson
South Dakota: Shannon, Todd
Townships
Michigan: Clyde Township (Allegan County), Buena Vista Township
New Hampshire: Rindge, Millsfield, Pinkham's Grant, Stewartstown, Stratford, Benton, Antrim, Boscawen, Newington, Unity
stillcool
(32,626 posts)what I was thinking. My impressions were it was a statewide compliance issue, and once a state ran a certain number of clean elections they were cleared. It wasn't on-going. Once a state was cleared, they were cleared. I also thought there was an expiration date.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...any part of the right-wing agenda, to include being a member of the GOP.
I just don't get it.
timdog44
(1,388 posts)get that 47% of the people voted for someone who was going to take their "wealth" and health away from them.
But initially I was thinking the same thing, but didn't know if I was going to be getting into stereotyping or not. I thinks it is a matter of what someone up above said about him "I got mine and fuck you". Like so many who get theirs and don't want to let any of it go.
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demwing
(16,916 posts)making explicit threats against SCOTUS justices can earn you lots of bad attention
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)truly re-rig the voting game to marginalize non-Republicans. The last election made it clear that they've lost to pure demographics, and suddenly, here were are-- seeing the rules of the game redefined to keep the Good ol' Boys Club on top.
Hekate
(90,698 posts)Clarence Thomas is a midget standing on the shoulders of giants, and never looked beneath his feet to see how hard they struggled so that he could be where he is.
Oh, and btw, I always believed Professor Anita Hill.
Hekate