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sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:35 PM Feb 2013

GOP Signals Surrender on VAWA!!!?

Zandar’s Morning Read: House GOP Signals Surrender On VAWA

It looks like the House GOP has figured out that actively legislating discrimination about which women deserve protections under the Violence Against Women Act is not only unrelentingly awful, but political hemlock as well.


House Republican leaders signaled Tuesday night that they are ready to let their VAWA bill die and clear the way for a broader, bipartisan Senate bill. The Senate legislation includes new protections missing from the House bill for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT), Native American and immigrant victims of domestic violence.

Here’s the House GOP plan procedurally, based on House Rules Committee actions Tuesday night: The House is expected to hold two VAWA votes on Thursday. The first will be to strip out the language of the Senate VAWA bill and replace it with the House GOP language. Since that isn’t expected to pass, lawmakers will then vote on the Senate VAWA bill itself. A GOP source involved in negotiations conceded that there is greater support for the Senate bill, and that the Senate version is likely the one to pass. That means VAWA could land on President Barack Obama’s desk by the end of this week — the version sought by the White House and Democrats.

Pretty much total surrender here on the issue as House Republicans have the approval ratings of somewhere between ebola in a nursery school and National Chewing On Tinfoil Month.


That House Republican leaders are allowing the Senate bill to get a floor vote is significant because they refused to let that happen in the last Congress, even though lawmakers in both parties believed it would pass. The move also signals that GOP leaders are ready to stop fighting over an issue that has damaged them politically. Congress failed to reauthorize VAWA in 2011 due in large part to House Republican resistance to the new protections in the Senate bill, and Democrats clobbered them over it throughout the 2012 election season.



http://angryblackladychronicles.com/2013/02/27/zandars-morning-read-house-gop-signals-surrender-on-vawa/#more-82628

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GOP Signals Surrender on VAWA!!!? (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2013 OP
wouldn't it be nice if they had done this because it is the RIGHT thing to do, and NOT because niyad Feb 2013 #1
So very true, niyad! sheshe2 Feb 2013 #3
absolutely agreed--at this point, whatever their "reasoning" is. . . niyad Feb 2013 #4
... sheshe2 Feb 2013 #5
Yes. October Feb 2013 #10
And the Republicans take 1 step forward & 2 steps back. How's Indiana's double catbyte Feb 2013 #2
catbyte... sheshe2 Feb 2013 #9
I was a freshmore in college when Roe v Wade was decided and thought it was settled. catbyte Feb 2013 #27
Sister, I am with you on that! sheshe2 Feb 2013 #28
K & R freshwest Feb 2013 #6
Thank you, freshwest! sheshe2 Feb 2013 #7
Obama stood firm, wouldn't agree to their watered down, bigoted bill. Hope to see the details soon. freshwest Feb 2013 #14
He did, as we knew he would. sheshe2 Feb 2013 #17
Nooo, thank youuu, Sheshe! freshwest Feb 2013 #20
As an Anishnaabek woman, I have nothing but praise for President Obama. He has catbyte Feb 2013 #29
K and R. This is why people have to speak out. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #8
Thanks again, Blanche. sheshe2 Feb 2013 #11
Yes, it gets passed down through the generations. We must break the cycle for future generations. freshwest Feb 2013 #16
I will Never Ever give up on this... sheshe2 Feb 2013 #24
Assholes are just caving.. one_voice Feb 2013 #12
How any woman could vote for this party... sheshe2 Feb 2013 #13
did you see "makers: women make america" on pbs last night? there was quite a section niyad Feb 2013 #18
I am crying here, niyad sheshe2 Feb 2013 #22
this is definitely a subject for the light of day--not something one needs to read before trying niyad Feb 2013 #23
"political hemlock".. as in overkill. Cha Feb 2013 #15
I bet they did, Cha. I really do! sheshe2 Feb 2013 #19
Lol :)))) Cha Feb 2013 #21
Haha! Needed the laugh on this heart rending thread. Thanks. freshwest Feb 2013 #25
We shall be merciful if they pay us tribute! Deep13 Feb 2013 #26

niyad

(113,318 posts)
1. wouldn't it be nice if they had done this because it is the RIGHT thing to do, and NOT because
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:51 PM
Feb 2013

not passing VAWA is hurting them politically? what a bunch of sick, woman-hating cretins.

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
3. So very true, niyad!
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:14 PM
Feb 2013

However at this point, I will take it anyway we can get it to pass.

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Thanks, niyad.

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
2. And the Republicans take 1 step forward & 2 steps back. How's Indiana's double
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:52 PM
Feb 2013

State-Sanctioned Rape Bill proceeding?

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
9. catbyte...
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:16 PM
Feb 2013

let's see what we can do about that next.

So sad we have to still keep fighting the issue of womens rights, over and over!

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
27. I was a freshmore in college when Roe v Wade was decided and thought it was settled.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:06 AM
Feb 2013

Silly me. I didn't realize how deep misogyny ran. It's exhausting and even though I had a complete hysterectomy almost a decade ago, I will keep fighting for my sisters until my last breath.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. Obama stood firm, wouldn't agree to their watered down, bigoted bill. Hope to see the details soon.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:07 AM
Feb 2013

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
29. As an Anishnaabek woman, I have nothing but praise for President Obama. He has
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:11 AM
Feb 2013

kept his promises to both Native Americans and women. Even the rare NA Republican acknowledges that President Obama has supported us more than any other in modern political history.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
8. K and R. This is why people have to speak out.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:45 PM
Feb 2013

It's how we support Obama against the pukes, and also what we must do when we disagree with him.

Thanks for posting, sheshe!!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. Yes, it gets passed down through the generations. We must break the cycle for future generations.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:10 AM
Feb 2013

The VAWA in past year proved that can be done. Don't give up on doing what is right for all.


sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
24. I will Never Ever give up on this...
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:31 AM
Feb 2013

Anymore than I will give up on this President, the man who is trying his damnedest to move this country forward.

Thank you, freshwest!

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
12. Assholes are just caving..
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:20 PM
Feb 2013

for political purposes. It makes me so sad and angry to know there are women that will happily vote for these scumbags. Any woman that votes for a man that votes against this should have to see domestic violence up close and personal.

Go and see the women beaten to a pulp, see the children damaged and scarred from it. Not just in passing, spend time, listen to them try and understand their pain. See their bruises, their cuts, the pain in their eyes. The screams in their sleep. The emotional damage that will take so much longer to heal.

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
13. How any woman could vote for this party...
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:49 PM
Feb 2013

well, in my mind it is beyond belief!

You know, what the really sad part is, I think many of them are in this situation. Women do not speak out, from fear and from shame. They have been mentally and physically abused and their children threatened.

This is a disease that needs to be stopped.

Thank you, one_voice.

niyad

(113,318 posts)
18. did you see "makers: women make america" on pbs last night? there was quite a section
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:18 AM
Feb 2013

on bringing domestic violence into the open, how hard it was to do so, how resistant the pols, police, etc., have been (and still are, disgustingly enough) they showed tracy thurman, a woman who survived her husband's murderous attack while the police did nothing. there is now a thurman law in several states requiring the police to take action in domestic violence situations.

(found a bit on the web:


Resolved Question

What happened to tracy thurman?
watching the movie a cry for help. Wondering what happened to her. What has she done with her life since the movie. How is her son and is Buck out of prison ?


Thanks to her, there is now the Thurman Law, which called for mandatory arrests in wife-beating cases in Connecticut and several other states. In the twelve months after the new law took effect, the number of domestic violence assaults reported increased by 92 percent.

Read the page 38 of that 88 pages PDF document. In 1984, Tracey Thurman was awarded 2.3 million dollars in damages from the city of Torrington, Connecticut.
http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Taubman


A Cry for Help: The Tracey Thurman Story (1989)
Tracy Thurman (played by Nancy McKeon in the movie) was married to a man who abused her. But he continues to harass her after she gets a restraining order, and the police do little to help. When he brutally beats her and slashes her throat in front of police, she sues the city and the police department for failing to protect her.

The scene of Buck's final, near fatal attack on Tracey is extremely violent and a almost TOO long. Buck Thurman chases Tracy down, throws her to the ground and stabs her repeatedly. As she lays helpless on the ground, he kicks her, jumps on her head and screams at her that she MADE him do all this, its all her fault (isn't that what the abuse always says)--stopping a couple of times and wandering a few feet away only to return and continue his attack. During this time, a police officer stands there, and as he says later "I continued to observe the situation". The only action he takes during the attack is to try and restrain the boyfriend (maybe husband?) of Tracey's friend when he attempts to aid her and picking up Buck's dropped knife and locking it in the trunk of his car. The only reaction we see from him is when Buck attempts to grab his son--then the officer rouses himself a bit.

It is this handling of the attack that leads Tracey to sue the police department on the grounds that they failed to offer her equal protection under the law.



Here's from the New York Times:
http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/mo
Tracey Thurman was a real-life Connecticut housewife who, throughout her marriage, suffered horrendous abuse at the hands of her husband. The beatings culminate in a single bloody night when Buck Thurman stabs his estranged wife 13 times. She survives--barely--and Buck is arrested. Having failed to get proper protection from the local police force, Tracey successfully sued the officers in 1989. The long-range result was the Thurman Law, which called for mandatory arrests in wife-beating cases in Connecticut and several other states. Nancy McKeon, who plays Tracey Thurman in A Cry for Help, starred in the film in the hope that it would prevent Buck Thurman's early release from prison. A Cry For Help: The Tracy Thurman Story first aired on October 2, 1989; Thurman was scheduled for release in 1991.

. . .

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070606214628AAlybf4

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
22. I am crying here, niyad
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:36 AM
Feb 2013

this subject pains me beyond belief.

No I did not see the pbs airing. However I will try to find it. I will read the rest of your links tomorrow. I can not bring myself to do it tonight. Dear God in heaven, you say the police actually stood and did nothing! Nothing. No words, I have none left. All that is left is the tears.

niyad

(113,318 posts)
23. this is definitely a subject for the light of day--not something one needs to read before trying
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:41 AM
Feb 2013

to go to sleep. When I saw that last night, and read further tonight, I kept thinking about nicole brown simpson, and how the cops did nothing when she called 911 except ask for his autograph.

Cha

(297,258 posts)
15. "political hemlock".. as in overkill.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:10 AM
Feb 2013

Thanks she!



Did all our petitions and emails help, perhaps?

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
19. I bet they did, Cha. I really do!
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:18 AM
Feb 2013

Time to put the women in charge... the GOP menzzz need the naughty mat NOW!

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