About that nurse and CPR...

[Are_grits_groceries]

Was there a no code in effect for this patient?
If so, are they not releasing that info because of some privacy concerns?
Just wondering, because her family isn't upset.

[pinboy3niner]

1. "Lorraine Bayless did not have a do-not-resuscitate order."

http://www.examiner.com/article/nurse-refuses-to-give-cpr-not-at-this-time-woman-dies

[FarPoint]

2. This will have legs....

Policy verses ethics............. it will expose the residential living scam.

I'm sensing the nurse was following policy.

[Are_grits_groceries]

3. I think she was.

It must have been drummed into them not to perform CPR or other measures.
If the family is ok with this, then they are somehow part of this.
What were the patient's wishes? That should be what determines this.

[FarPoint]

4. The problem is

that their are some many options...no clear guidelines. When they called 911...that brought in the 911 standards...so you have nursing ethics, facility policy, patient Advance Directives if applicable, and 911 standard and samaritan law....

Dammed if you do....dammed if you don't.

[leftyohiolib]

7. damned if you dont .. sued if you do

[pinboy3niner]

5. It's a good discussion to have

Even though the decedent's daughter, who was identified as a "nurse," said her mother had good care and she didn't think CPR would have saved her mother. (Though I don't know how her daughter would know much about medical and nursing care in the section of the facility that was excluded from receiving it.)

The Examiner is not the best source, but it appears that there may have been no DNR order. We can't know whether CPR might have saved Lorraine Bayless, but the policy questions raised here could lead to saving other lives.

[KharmaTrain]

6. I Smell Insurance Company Policies Here...

...these companies don't hesitate to play god and decide whose "worth" saving and who isn't. There's also the lawsuit factor...if the nurse wasn't properly trained or authorized...the irony here is in their zeal to avoid the extra expenses the PR and ensuing legal actions is sure to cost far more than the corners cost and the life lost...