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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsABC News: Box of "Liberal Causes" stolen from DNC warehouse. Libertarians suspected.
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From ABC News:
"Every two years we go to the warehouse and get the box loaded onto the truck. We open it up, dust the liberal causes off, do some restoration if necessary, and then put them on display during the convention. An intern was taking an inventory for insurance purposes and found it wasn't at the warehouse anymore." said Edith March, DNC spokesperson. "Which is ironic, because we hadn't actually insured them."
--snip--
"Well, it's not a total loss. We still have these little bobblehead statues of Ted Kennedy and Paul Wellstone from a gift shop in the lobby. Somebody had written 'liberal' on the bottom with a Sharpie so we've put those in a safe place. Oh, also...Somebody found an old 'ERA NOW!' button in their desk. We're looking into what that means and what it would take to mount the button on either of the bobbleheads. Maybe with hot glue or something."
Asked about the possibility the Democratic Party may not be able to recover the ideas, March seemed optimistic about being able to rebuild from scratch if necessary.
"We had a big brainstorm a few days ago to see what everybody remembers and so far we have: 'something about Social Security', 'there's nothing wrong with black people', and something about growing corn or maybe the sea. Didn't somebody famous write a book about corn growing in the sea? Anyway, we're getting there."
"Oh, one more!" she added, "'Old people need blankets.'"
--snip--
Sources close to the police investigation have implicated members in the local chapter of the Libertarian party in the theft. A YouTube video surfaced, showing Libertarians coaching each other on the pronunciation of phrases like 'Constitutional Rights', 'living wage' and 'old people need blankets'. Arrests are expected soon.
PB
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Than have an argument about hypotheticals about something that has killed ZERO people in this country.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Gee, if drones have killed ZEEERROOO!!! people in America, there must be no problem.
Fuck.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)and I believe the outrage on the Right is the idea that "Obama will kill U.S. citizens" (which I don't believe he has done to U.S. citizens with the drones, else we would already have heard about the "hundreds of U.S. citizens" killed - read: BENGAZI!!!), whereas the outrage by the "left" is that Obama is using drones at all to kill.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)U.S. citizens, yes. In this country, no.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)"hundreds of civilians" ...
so, no ... not "hundreds" of U.S. citizens, apparently.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)"...is the idea that "Obama will kill U.S. citizens" (which I don't believe he has done to U.S. citizens with the drones..."
It's been done. Not wholesale, not 100s though.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Nor do civilians who are actively sheltering these terrorists. And the vast majority of Democrats agree with me.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
RC
(25,592 posts)How the hell could anyone know, when we seemly pick our targets at random? How do we justify killing dozens of people, because we said ONE person in the area was a terrorist?
Just because there are other people are in the area when we murder a suspected terrorist out of the blue, doe not make them actively sheltering these terrorists. Quite often these others, either live where we blew up or near by. Guilty of the crime of living close by?
One person's terrorist is another persons Freedom Fighter, defending their country from foreign invaders, usually us, US. We are the ones in their country. They are not in ours.
Conservative Democrat? That is an oxymoron and you are not helping.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)The "outrage" is that drone strikes kill secret targets in secret locations, for secret reasons, and manages to kill hundreds of civilians in the process.
As you also know, the administration has also claimed the right to kill U.S. citizens without due process, and has done so at least once.
RC
(25,592 posts)The man's 16 year old son, a week or so later. They knew and did it anyway.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I imagine many people are unable to to both. More's the pity that peculiar lack of ability. Good luck in overcoming it!!!
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Kudos if this is your work.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,650 posts)Cracked Magazine is looking for talent like this. The pay (nothing) helps groom cynicism.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)In a sad kind of way. Rec
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
Rabid_Rabbit
(131 posts)While I don't think it is quite that bad, it does seem that liberal causes are only important during elections and when a republican is in power. Not just from the leadership but also rank and file democrats. The excuses I have heard and read for not supporting Rand Paul and his stance against drone killings can only be explained if people put their party affiliation above the common good. Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter what letter follows the individuals name.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)"dripping satire" smilie?
djean111
(14,255 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)die of preventable disease.
They oppose Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
They oppose the minimum wage, workplace safety laws, and the Civil Rights Act, not to mention the ADA.
Ranting about drones doesn't change that.
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)"liberal" and "libertarian" as some kind of opposites.
In the old days of the Democratic Party, "civil libertarians" were a distinct wing. To use these words as if they are conceptual opposites, as is done on DU?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)When it comes to regulating Wall Street and financial institutions, they ARE opposites.
On the issue of providing the basic necessities of life to all people, they ARE opposites.
When it comes to worker and consumer protection, they ARE opposites.
When it comes to combatting private sector discrimination on the basis of race, gender, religion, orientation, or disability, they ARE opposites.
Liberals and libertarians are opposites when it comes to one's view of the proper role of government in society.
That Rand Paul says something that gets liberals nodding their heads about drones doesn't make him an ally, or even anything less than a bitter enemy.
pediatricmedic
(397 posts)Authoritarians and Libertarians are complete opposites.
Libertarians span the entire political spectrum from left to right, including anarchy.
The current Democratic party is right of center and authoritarian.
The current Republican party is FAR right and authoritarian.
Please go look around this site:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/index
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Food safety and labeling laws are 'authoritarian'
Forbidding discrimination on the basis of race is considered 'authoritarianism'
What do you think the libertarians mean when they yell 'liberty?'
Note, btw, that that site has Gary Johnson as a non-libertarian.
You should really talk to some actual libertarians. They're nuts. The Libertarian party's motto is "maximum liberty, minimum government."
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Oooo!!! Ooooo!!! I know this one!!
The ability to smoke pot.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)don't like.
And the ability to have really, really low taxes.
And the elevation of property rights over human rights.
And the right to own 10 machine guns and a bazooka.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the exact opposite in different places.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)That was a lot different than people want to remember.
Ford was seen as the typical beer drinking football fan glued to the sofa. If Ford hadn't pardoned Nixon he would have probably won.
Carter was seen as a hayseed. Helen Thomas said his press conferences were like going to Sunday School. The South LOVED him at the time. His brother Billy was considered to be a classic "good old boy" especially after he hosed down the runway.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Screw granny, defund social programs from health to safety nets in terms of housing and food security, starve the schools so that if you want your kids educated, you pay for it yourself, leave people to die if they don't have medical insurance, but smoke 'em if ya got 'em!
Oh--and no speed limits!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The "Eye of Big Brother" and all that.
After 9/11 the Republicans were talking about citizens having to apply for travel permits that would have to be presented at armed checkpoints. Funny how they were able to pull that authoritarian crap INSTANTLY out of their asses.
Democrats didn't even CONSIDER that crap during WWII.
MADem
(135,425 posts)to translate that success here.
You can't go anywhere in London without being on a screen, somewhere. This is true of most cities of any import in UK.
It's getting to be the same in New York city, as well. Other cities, too.
It is a different world. We won't go backwards on this--it's just too much of a money-saver as well as being a money-maker. I can understand the reluctance to feel comfortable with this constant surveillance, but as I have said elsewhere, the horse has left the barn. This will not be rolled back. Don't want to be recognized? Large hats, big brims, oversized coats and Jackie Onassis-sized dark glasses and scarves will be the must-wear accessories for both sexes.
During WW2, borders still meant something. We were fairly secure in our persons, despite efforts by the Japanese and Germans to cause trouble on the west and east coasts, respectively.
It wasn't easy to go from USA to any other country, save to our allies Canada or Mexico. You'd have to stop and refuel if you took a plane, and if you took a boat, you risked getting sunk. I've gone to Europe for a weekend; that kind of mobility wasn't possible seventy years ago.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)We have a media that constantly pumps the average citizen full of fear.
Look how many ran out to get duct tape and plastic sheeting.
It inspired this piece of art entitled "In Bondage"....
MADem
(135,425 posts)Nahn Wun Wun...
But it's morphed a bit--it is now less about 'terra' and more about information. Who are you, what are you doing, where are you going, and why are you where you are...
We're in a Brave New World. Interpol connects us all...
http://www.interpol.int/en
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)All it is right now is a data dump for cops to access.
International law has no actual enforcement. That's why Cheney wasn't hauled into the Hague.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)As long as they are rich, they'll let the world burn, because it's their personal liberty to set fires.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)are republicans. Your source might work if we were discussing libertarians in any other country but not here.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I.e., nothing alike.
Libertarians are not our allies, have never been our allies, never will be our allies.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)it disintegrated - which is what the party leaders intended.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)They just don't want the federal government doing the things they think the state governments should be doing. That's all.
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)It is not that they want the states to do work now done by the Federal Government, they simply do not want any public body doing that work at all. If it needs to be done, they suppose, someone will do it. And if they can make a profit at it they will keep on doing it and so and and so forth. But the point is not the conflate a Libertarian with a State's rights person, that they are not. They don't want to move the responsibilities of Government down slope, they want to remove them from the public sphere all together.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Octafish
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OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)NOVA_Dem
(620 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)This is neat
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)We have no choice but to be played as suckers every four years.
alfredo
(60,077 posts)nineteen50
(1,187 posts)The Democratic National Committee has no liberal ideas.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I read it right here at DU.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)bluedigger
(17,087 posts)It cracked me up, so I guess I haven't lost all perspective.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)...hasn't stopped stretching and distorting since 2000, which is profoundly unsettling. Thankfully, that's just at the Federal level. For me, I don't have all that much to complain about on the state level. I think I would go nuts if I couldn't turn to either for some hope, and I know there are a fair number of DUers who are, sadly, in that situation where they live.
PB
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)In fact there has been a rash of dirty tricks/lawlessness in the last few months and the false prostitution smear of Sen. Menéndez is one other such example.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)I was sure it was from the Onion.
By the way, nice touch putting in the ABC News link.
The SNIPs were also very inspired.
Stinky The Clown
(67,819 posts)K&R
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)Rachel said she was flooded with hate mail for supporting and covering Paul's filibuster.
pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)Love it! Thank you!
It's so darned obvious that our Dems should have been on the floor in the Senate for that filibuster. I'm ashamed of them and ashamed of all the people who would rather criticize Rand Paul than to participate in the debate. An old friend of mine who I worked with as a moderator on the old Kerry website evidently doesn't even know what all the fuss is about. He was clueless. He's so wrapped up in knocking Rand Paul that he won't stop to educate himself on what the filibuster was all about. It's so depressing.
I too wish people would understand that civil libertarian and the Libertarian Party aren't the same thing. While I supported the filibuster I am not a Libertarian. I am, however, a civil libertarian.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)People who doubt that progressive ideas are getting enshrined in law in under president Obama need to educate themselves and get their head out of mythical boxes.
And this is happening even as the republicans try their hardest to obstruct.
I give DUers the benefit of the doubt. If after educating themselves they come back and say that no good law is getting put in place, they are either disingenuous, lying or both.
procon
(15,805 posts)I know Republicans struggle with satire, but skimming through the comments, I learned that they are not alone.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)I don't want people to die without healthcare, but I don't want to blow them up with drones either.
Where is MY party?
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Someone is not doing their Cycle Counts.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)to check into a mental clinic.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)TBH, I actually thought it was from the Onion for a second.....
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I mean, really.
From ABC. News???
At least tell me it's from ABC's department of satire.
I mean.....really!
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Bravo!
harun
(11,348 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)cut (not slash) Medicare & SS benefits. Sell public schools to "reformers". And big boxes full of cash from Big Insurance & the Pentagon