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kpete

(72,006 posts)
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:00 AM Mar 2013

KRUGMAN-Breitbarted!!!

March 11, 2013, 9:13 am15 Comments
Breitbarted

OK, I’m an evil person — and my scheming has paid off.

On Friday I started hearing from friends about a fake story making the rounds about my allegedly filing for personal bankruptcy; I even got asked about the story by a reporter from Russian television, who was very embarrassed when I told him it was fake. But I decided not to post anything about it; instead, I wanted to wait and see which right-wing media outlets would fall for the hoax.

And Breitbart.com came through!

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go give a lavishly paid speech to Friends of Hamas.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/breitbarted/

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KRUGMAN-Breitbarted!!! (Original Post) kpete Mar 2013 OP
I am convinced that Republicans will believe anything. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #1
People tend to believe whatever corresponds to their existing biases. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2013 #4
Yep. Breitbart's defense is: We just report what we hear, we don't verify it or TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #5
Wow, what professional journalism they hear! backscatter712 Mar 2013 #54
Yep, the absolute antithesis of what journalism arthritisR_US Mar 2013 #60
The difference is DUers generally admit they believed something false, temporarily. denverbill Mar 2013 #6
I've seen so much in my e-mail box and on FB that, if you take 2 seconds on the internet, you find zbdent Mar 2013 #16
My experience as well. denverbill Mar 2013 #18
I once pointed out to a RWer that the "beautiful pictures" someone shot zbdent Mar 2013 #20
Isn't FB an excellent propaganda tool? eom littlemissmartypants Mar 2013 #27
Did You See The One About DallasNE Mar 2013 #30
It took me a couple of years xxqqqzme Mar 2013 #38
Coming soon to your inbox: LIBERAL ECONOMIST FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY!1! progressoid Mar 2013 #41
Oh, Bush never said that? Sheesh! That was one of my favorite Republican quotes... CTyankee Mar 2013 #24
Hell, as long as it SHOULD be true, Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #47
yeah, why the hell NOT? Right? CTyankee Mar 2013 #48
Actually, I think I told some wingnut once that Bush said Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #49
I am in denial that Bush never said that entrepreneur thing...but it doesn't surprise me that CTyankee Mar 2013 #50
omg, THAT is hilarious! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #55
Bad example. Very bad. vanbean Mar 2013 #33
Yup. The Ann Coulter story from the same site was widely believed here cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #23
Actually, the first place I saw that zbdent Mar 2013 #43
Very true. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #35
True that. I also read on The Daily Currant another satirical tblue37 Mar 2013 #39
That piece turned up on DU as well The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2013 #40
What trips us up is plausibility eridani Mar 2013 #56
As I have frequently commented adieu Mar 2013 #10
Don't know if it actually was George Carlin, but the sentiment is perfect ... zbdent Mar 2013 #17
No, that is NOT the problem happyslug Mar 2013 #22
Excellent post Populist_Prole Mar 2013 #34
The more Republicans lie, the more Americans they alienate Berlum Mar 2013 #2
Brietbart doesnt " fall for a hoax" sufrommich Mar 2013 #3
Is Andrew still dead? Seems like it. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #7
Smells better than he used to. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #64
That is an easy one to check. I guess they should partner with the National Enquirer. Pisces Mar 2013 #8
National Enquirer actually checks facts better Kber Mar 2013 #12
That's because they're a business, and lawsuits hurt JHB Mar 2013 #19
Ever wonder where the Weekly World News staff ended up? TreasonousBastard Mar 2013 #58
Not at Breitbart. WWN's too accurate JHB Mar 2013 #61
I don't think National Enquirer would lower their standards that far. Fuddnik Mar 2013 #14
Dead Breitbart seems much more popular than live Breitbart was. sofa king Mar 2013 #9
Being dead means he can't do anything to disillusion the starry-eyed. JHB Mar 2013 #15
Like a poor man's burial... sofa king Mar 2013 #32
Any guesses as to what the "T" stands for? Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #36
Terror They_Live Mar 2013 #52
Get your bets in: Which FOX host will be the first... JHB Mar 2013 #11
"What did Paul Krugman know and when did he know it?" Myrina Mar 2013 #28
Wil Rand Paul filibuster any nominees 'until he gets more info louis-t Mar 2013 #31
the Daily Caller would have been another good bet Enrique Mar 2013 #13
Life in the bubble Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2013 #21
Exactly underpants Mar 2013 #62
how do you go to these turd maggot sites ? olddots Mar 2013 #25
You and me both... freshwest Mar 2013 #29
I thought Republicans had stuffed Krugman with macNcheese, free open bars and killed him too! Sunlei Mar 2013 #26
In Breitbart's passing, Ben Shapiro has taken up the mantle of making up manure and slinging it Jack Rabbit Mar 2013 #37
Breitbart et al got punked but that will not lose them any credibility with the tea baggers. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #42
Breitbart and fraud The Wizard Mar 2013 #44
Republicans live in a fantasy world loosely based on reality. Rex Mar 2013 #45
"Friends of Hamas!" LOL! Lucky Luciano Mar 2013 #46
That was hilarious! Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #63
Like you take a dog out for walk, the bosses in the GOP get their base all paranoid applegrove Mar 2013 #51
I should call fox news and tell them the end is coming! Lobo27 Mar 2013 #53
When I play with the minds Heathen57 Mar 2013 #57
Tee Hee ;-) ReRe Mar 2013 #59
I love this guy! Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #65

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
4. People tend to believe whatever corresponds to their existing biases.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:12 AM
Mar 2013

That goes for everybody - we've seen plenty of satirical items posted on DU as describing true occurrences and all manner of outrage ensues until someone points out that the piece is satire, and then everybody does the Emily Litella thing, "Never mind." But Breitbart is far more egregious because they represent themselves as journalists, which they are not; they are propagandists. Journalists verify their sources instead of acting as stenographers who just repeat any "news" item that seem to further their warped worldview.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
54. Wow, what professional journalism they hear!
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:01 PM
Mar 2013

Repeating stories they hear without verifying them?

Yep, that'll get them Pulitzers...

arthritisR_US

(7,291 posts)
60. Yep, the absolute antithesis of what journalism
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 01:56 AM
Mar 2013

is and should be. The absolute definition of what propaganda is

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
6. The difference is DUers generally admit they believed something false, temporarily.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:26 AM
Mar 2013

I've been duped once or twice by satire pieces, such as Bush claiming the French had no word for entrepreneur. The difference between me and them is that once I find out it wasn't true, I stop believing it.

Republickers don't do that. They have been saying for 5 years how Obama has raised taxes and dramatically increased spending. You can show them the numbers and despite reading facts from the IRS, Heritage Foundation, or any other source, they will still insist Obama raised taxes and increased spending. This despite the fact that the only 'tax increase' any of them have seen is the end of the payroll tax holiday, which was initiated by Obama in 2009, putting their taxes at the lowest point in modern history for 2 years.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
16. I've seen so much in my e-mail box and on FB that, if you take 2 seconds on the internet, you find
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:24 PM
Mar 2013

out it's false ...

but almost always from Repugs/baggers...

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
18. My experience as well.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:27 PM
Mar 2013

But most never bother to look. And if you point out the falsehood, they don't stop believing it.

I have not once ever gotten a left-leaning similar email.

Personally, I think there is a right-wing organization completely devoted to creating those emails.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
20. I once pointed out to a RWer that the "beautiful pictures" someone shot
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:30 PM
Mar 2013

were photo-shopped ... and he didn't blink. "Yeah, but aren't they pretty?" was the reply when confronted with "God's natural artwork" ...

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
30. Did You See The One About
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:22 PM
Mar 2013

Tucson AZ being placed under Marshall Law. The right wing zombies are saying that the local government passed a law that mandated that the Air Force place Tucson under Marshall Law since Tucson was in a "state of emergency". Google it.

No, we're not talking about the State using an "emergency manager" law to impound a city like Detroit against the will of the elected officials but the City asking to be taken over by the military. And the people fall for it hook, line and sinker. But then this is what McCarthyism was all about -- putting out false stories then smearing people with the false stories -- are you still beating your wife. Anyone with half a brain would know that this crap can't possibly be true but it spreads like wildfire in the social media.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
38. It took me a couple of years
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:04 PM
Mar 2013

to train my kool aid drinking mother to go to snopes FIRST before mindlessly forwarding every RW email she received to me. I think they also just recirculate the same ones every few years because I have received similar emails from her on a 2-3 year cycle.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
41. Coming soon to your inbox: LIBERAL ECONOMIST FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY!1!
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:35 PM
Mar 2013

Thankfully, I rarely get those anymore. I think hitting 'reply all' and correcting the fallacies has made them less likely to send that crap to me.



CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. Oh, Bush never said that? Sheesh! That was one of my favorite Republican quotes...
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:43 PM
Mar 2013

oh, well, even if it is not true it SHOULD be true so there...

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
49. Actually, I think I told some wingnut once that Bush said
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:56 PM
Mar 2013

the French have no word for "entrepreneur," and he said something like "I didn't know that!" Then I told him the French also have no word for esprit de corps, and that's why their armies have never been any good. He bought it.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
50. I am in denial that Bush never said that entrepreneur thing...but it doesn't surprise me that
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:05 PM
Mar 2013

you know a wingnut who agrees that French armies have never been any good. Americans in general have a lousy education in world history. If it didn't start with the founding of America then it wasn't worth studying...oy...

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
43. Actually, the first place I saw that
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:14 PM
Mar 2013

was on Snopes ... one of the "new" ones. Didn't hear it from a "lib" source.

I go to "what's new" almost every day to see what is likely going to be the new talking point ...

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
35. Very true.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:53 PM
Mar 2013

Teabaggers tend to stick to any anti-Obama conspiracies that they might hear about, like flies to manure.
Climate doomers will almost always jump on just about any extreme piece of Chicken Little B.S. they come across, as if it was somehow "groundbreaking" or cutting edge(though it's usually bullshit in about 95% of cases), because it supports their lame-brained assertions that "the news is getting worse all teh tyme, nonstop! Dooooommm!!one!!1!". Likewise, when any piece of good news comes around in terms of climate(which actually tends to have more truth to it!), the deniers will sometimes jump on that and say, "See? Told ya there was nothing to worry about!".

You've also got problems with Israel/Palestine, and many other issues as well. Hell, some people will even argue about trivial stuff like Daylight Savings Time for goodness sakes!

tblue37

(65,477 posts)
39. True that. I also read on The Daily Currant another satirical
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:17 PM
Mar 2013

piece claiming that Ann Coulter made a scene when she found out she was on a plane flown by a black female pilot, claiming that the woman couldn't possibly be qualified because she probably got her license and job by way of affirmative action:

Here's a link to the satirical piece about Coulter:
http://dailycurrant.com/2013/01/29/ann-coulter-refuses-board-airplane-black-pilot/

Wouldn't you know, a whole bunch of Tweets from more liberal users were totally taken in by the piece.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
40. That piece turned up on DU as well
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:26 PM
Mar 2013

and a lot of people believed it - because they wanted to. Moral of the story is, look closely at the source, read the source itself and not just the DU or other post, look for other sources of the same story, and don't be so ready to believe something negative about someone you don't like, just because you don't like them.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
56. What trips us up is plausibility
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:00 AM
Mar 2013

Just because it's the kind of thing that X would do doesn't mean that X actually did it.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
10. As I have frequently commented
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:56 AM
Mar 2013

when your whole life is based on believing "...in a magically written book about an invisible person having sex with the wife of a carpenter to spawn a child who is really himself, dead and alive, then after the child grows up to be a man, kills him by getting some unsuspecting doofus to out him after dinner, puts him into a cave, and then three days later, lets him out, but then he disappears and that's so his death will redeem all of mankind (how?) for all sin (what sin?)..." then you can believe practically anything.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
17. Don't know if it actually was George Carlin, but the sentiment is perfect ...
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:25 PM
Mar 2013

something to the effect of:

"If I can convince you that you have an invisible fairy on your shoulder watching your every every move, then I can convince you of anything."

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
22. No, that is NOT the problem
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:39 PM
Mar 2013

People tend to embrace a religion that reflects they own world view (and break with that religion when the world view of the Religion differs from their own world view). Christianity is based on helping your fellow human beings, something many of these conservatives reject in favor of a combination of Darwin and Adam Smith, gloss over with old Testament stories that they construe as supporting the concept of individual over the group (and technically rejecting both Darwin and Adam Smith but embracing the concepts as to human interaction tied in with Darwin and Smith).

It is this miss-mash of dogma that Conservatives embrace, it is NOT Christian, for they reject the concept of helping their fellow man AND reject the concept of "Good Works" (I know "Good Works" is more a Catholic Concept then a Protestant Concept, but it is clearly mentioned in the Bible and any good Christian has to at least make an effort to do "Good works&quot . They believe that they are better then others and thus they can reproduce while others should "die out" (i.e. embracing Darwin, while rejecting him) and embrace that Wealth is how God shows his favor to people (Thus embracing Smith concepts as to Wealth via the Puritans, yes I know the Puritan pre-date Adam Smith, but these conservatives tend to cite Puritans when justifying things supported by Adam Smith).

My point is simple, it is NOT religion that is the problem, but the world view of Economic Conservatives. Economic Conservatives view wealth as more important then anything else and will embrace whatever world view that justifies that position. This can be religion, or even Communism (As what is happening in China among the Communist ruling elite of China). I see people make this mistake on DU all the time, attacking religion when they really should be attacking the actual views of these Conservatives (and one way is to show them HOW they position differers from generally accepted views on what they claim to be their religion).

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
34. Excellent post
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:48 PM
Mar 2013

Believe it or not it made me rethink my opposition to religion as such. I've come to loathe fundies and their "corporate jesus" so much that I had a tendency to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
2. The more Republicans lie, the more Americans they alienate
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:04 AM
Mar 2013

Boy are Republicans stupid. They cannot get a clue about why no Americans respect them anymore, and their poll results are in the freaking cesspool.

HeLLO Republicans: No one likes or respects habitual liars. Get a freaking clue.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
3. Brietbart doesnt " fall for a hoax"
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:06 AM
Mar 2013

Brietbart knows they are hoaxes and pretends they are truth. That's an important distinction.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
19. That's because they're a business, and lawsuits hurt
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:29 PM
Mar 2013

They have to keep their bullshit mostly harmless.


Breitbart.com is a propaganda outlet and outrage generator. It's a whole different business model.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
9. Dead Breitbart seems much more popular than live Breitbart was.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:50 AM
Mar 2013

That probably applies to both his website and himself.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
15. Being dead means he can't do anything to disillusion the starry-eyed.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:23 PM
Mar 2013

Had he lived probably would have eventually stopped being useful and been hung out to dry by the Republican establishment as the bitter liar that he was.

In his current subterranean state, his fans can graft whatever they want onto their idolizing image of him. Case in point:


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sofa king

(10,857 posts)
32. Like a poor man's burial...
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:42 PM
Mar 2013

... the ghost of Breitbart is clothed in honors finer than he ever earned in life.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
36. Any guesses as to what the "T" stands for?
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:54 PM
Mar 2013

Twit? Truth Distorter? Or just good old fashioned Tea Bagger?

How anyone can think that man was honorable or admirable or worthy of homage after we know he did what he did to Shirley Sherrod (not to mention ACORN and various other targets) is beyond me. Even from the right.

If there was some liberal figure who went around fabricating stories about low level individuals and destroying their reputations in order to serve a liberal agenda, you wouldn't see me embracing that person as a hero, no matter how much I might agree with him or her on an issue.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
11. Get your bets in: Which FOX host will be the first...
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:11 PM
Mar 2013

...to say the Krugman has "admitted" to being evil?

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
28. "What did Paul Krugman know and when did he know it?"
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:18 PM
Mar 2013

And why did he mislead the media with silence???


Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. I thought Republicans had stuffed Krugman with macNcheese, free open bars and killed him too!
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:47 PM
Mar 2013

Republican spokesman breibart screaming at occupy protesters one week, gone the next.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
37. In Breitbart's passing, Ben Shapiro has taken up the mantle of making up manure and slinging it
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:59 PM
Mar 2013

At long last, Mr. Shapiro, have you no sense of decency?

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yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
42. Breitbart et al got punked but that will not lose them any credibility with the tea baggers.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:57 PM
Mar 2013

After all facts are pretty much what you want them to be.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. Republicans live in a fantasy world loosely based on reality.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:35 PM
Mar 2013

Democrats live in reality based on facts and real life experiences.

applegrove

(118,749 posts)
51. Like you take a dog out for walk, the bosses in the GOP get their base all paranoid
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:32 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Tue Mar 12, 2013, 08:54 PM - Edit history (2)

against the GOP's enemies. It is, simply put, exercising them to be better pawns and patsies. Like any group of muscles, it can get weaker over time. Left unexercised a person might not hate Obama or they might vote their own economic best interest again. Thus, rumours like this over and over and over again.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
53. I should call fox news and tell them the end is coming!
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:56 PM
Mar 2013

"A highly influential dem says the world is coming to an end." I wonder if total chaos would ensue.

Heathen57

(573 posts)
57. When I play with the minds
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:30 AM
Mar 2013

of my 'bagger family and friends, I will post something like the Coulter rumor then caption it like "Too bad it isn't true", or "I could only wish".

Funny how they never read that caption, then proceed to try and justify or defend the ridiculous rumors.

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