Those people, they think they're entitled

[Scuba]

[libtodeath]

1. We need to make a minimum income the first basic right we all have.

[hedda_foil]

2. k&r Nt.

[OnyxCollie]

3. Get rid of the full-time jobs.

Problem solved.

[baldguy]

4. Right. And 37.5 hrs a week isn't full-time.

[OnyxCollie]

5. Oh, so close.

Try harder next time, and maybe you'll be eligible for benefits.

Sorry!

[Brigid]

20. Exactly.

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It kind of reminds me of that State Farm commercial where that old guy with the fishing rod is dangling a dollar bill in front of that girl and saying, "Got you a dollar! Oh you gotta be quicker than that!" Now I know why I find that commercial a little depressing.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

35. All those commercials tricking little chidren are quite mean.

Very depressing that commercials with a man in a suit tricking little kids with statements like "Oh, you didn't say you wanted a REAL pony" and other such misleading bullshit.

So many commercials promoting cruelty and meanness.

[Duval]

6. K&R n/t

[ReRe]

7. A LIVING wage for all who work,

.. irregardless of the hours. All of us are cogs in the wheel.

[antigop]

8. What about stay-at-home Moms/Dads or those who work part-time to take care of kids? nt

[Tree-Hugger]

26. Didn't Romney say...

That "those" people who stay home with their kids should make use of government funded daycare so the parents can find pride in getting a "Real" job? He said something along those lines.

[antigop]

9. What about people who are laid off and lose their employer-provided insurance? nt

[mwooldri]

49. This makes the case for national, single player, universal healtlhcare.

And a case for family financial support and a jobseekers allowance despite the circumstances of the layoff.

[Smilo]

10. Oh how dare they

don't they know that those entitlements are only for Paul Ryan (millionaire) and Ayn Rand (washed out "immigrant" novelist). Because they are the true Americans - well them and corporations.

[Coolest Ranger]

11. You can't live on 8.75 an hour

This so pisses me off to see stories like this.

[starroute]

12. And if technology is doing away with our jobs -- we're still entitled

Like it says in the Declaration -- we all have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That means all of us. And if our brave new robotic future doesn't have enough actual hands-on jobs to go around, we have to figure out some other way of providing the necessities of life to everyone.

[duhneece]

13. I agree

With the level of civilization we've now reached, no one should be denied a roof over their head & food to stay alive. No one, imho.

[Paul E Ester]

18. The "right to life"

Is the right to not having the government take the life of an american citizen without the due process of a court of law.

No king can order you killed.

The right to liberty, is your right to being free unless the government detains you are brought before a court of law where you are given rights to challenge your detention.

No king can order you jailed.

The pursuit of happiness is not a guarantee you should be happy. It's retaining the right to do what you decide for yourself in that pursuit.

The King cannot enslave you.

The figuring out how you want to do these things is what freedom is all about. Freedom to think, Freedom to choose, Freedom to do.

[Demeter]

25. No king can order you killed

Until recently

[Flatulo]

54. LOL. Good observation.

[rhett o rick]

36. Even if there are robots to do the work, the commons will be used

to build wealth. We all own the commons and should share the wealth generated from them.

[indepat]

14. Such entitlements are anathema in a right-wing soused society which promotes only the welfare of the

plutocrats, large corporations, and the most affluent, as incorporated in the Ryan budget.

[Flatulo]

32. Is there any place in the world where you can go, and receive food, shelter and medical care

in return for producing absolutely nothing? I'm not talking about disability or hardship, but just making the choice to not toil in any way, and still be able to subsist?

[xtraxritical]

41. Northern European Socialist Democracies.

[Flatulo]

44. Does that apply to people who emigrate there, or just their native population?

[xtraxritical]

50. Do your own homework.

[Flatulo]

53. Now wouldn't it have just been easier to ignore my question than to take the extra time

and effort to be a dick? LOL, this place cracks me up sometimes.

[99Forever]

15. How about the millions who have had...

... a lifetime of hard work stolen out from under them and are not likely to ever be employed at a livable wage, if employed at all, ever again? Do we count too? Or are we, all used up and disposable?

[Flatulo]

38. That's a real tragedy. If you're over 50 or under 25, the work force is completely closed.

As bad as I feel for us old-timers, we're losing an entire generation of educated kids to menial, service sector jobs paying minimum wage with no hope of ever getting any benefits.

[xtraxritical]

42. Corporate America dumped me at 45 and I've been unemployed ever since.

[Flatulo]

45. Sorry to hear that. How long have you been out of work?

I had my job outsourced to China 3 times, so I feel your pain.

[nebenaube]

46. We should start a company of our own...

Haven't been 'employed' since 2003.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

16. Thank You for sharing this pic!

More things I can put as an answer post for this one FB in particular that was posted on my wall by a "friend" from the tea party page. They have been calling me a "commie" for supporting Unions, wanting a living wage and universal health care.

But between them and that "friend" I had to look at bushy's pic with the title "Do you miss us yet?" when I logged in this last Saturday. So they gave me the target and I am happy to post Democratic propaganda for as long as they leave it up on their (and that "friend&quot site! Teach them to put trash on my page!

[Duer 157099]

17. I would amend that

to say that if you work full-time, you are entitled to a whole lot more than just those things.

If you are just a living breathing human being--or Republican--, you should already be entitled to those basic necessities.

[Flatulo]

30. I can't imagine anything more demeaning and humiliating than to be receiving food, shelter

and medical care, all courtesy of someone else's labor, just for existing.

Exceptions for those physically and mentally unable to work, and those who are unemployed through no fault of their own.

Work gives meaning to life. We're not house cats. Well, at least I'm not.

OK, pile on.

[LanternWaste]

51. We ourselves give meaning to life.

"Work gives meaning to life. We're not house cats. Well, at least I'm not..."

We ourselves give meaning to our life. We're not defined by our jobs. Well, at least I'm not.

OK, rationalize.

[Flatulo]

52. Well, I see it like this, which is a decidedly libertarian slant.

You're perfectly free to derive whatever meaning you can from whatever you do with your life. But is it morally OK to demand that others feed and house you by performing labor that has commercial value while you, for example, write bad poetry?

Again, exceptions for those who cannot perform work of commercial value.

On edit: I suppose an argument could be made that some of us are genetically unsuited to perform any tasks that would be considered to have commercial worth. I'm beginning to think my son fits this description. He loves to write, but is a complete and utter fuckup at anything requiring mechanical dexterity or curiosity. He can't even change a tire because he can't remember which way to turn the wrench to loosen. I love him dearly, and I'm currently supporting him 100%, but I wonder if my support isn't enabling his incompetence?

[freshwest]

19. Try to get the idea of FDR's 2nd Bill of Rights through the American corporate mindset.

[theKed]

21. It should have been

enshrined in the constitution, just like the first set.

[shireen]

22. i hate the word "entitlement"

They earned it.

[99th_Monkey]

23. Well if these moochers wanted decent money and health care

they should have made sure they were born to wealthy parents.

It's a little late for theme to be whining now.

[demosocialist]

24. K&R nt

[tularetom]

27. "Those people" causing trouble again?

WTF makes them think that they are entitled to the same "entitlements" as Romney, Koch Bros., Adelson etc.

Life was sure simpler back when there weren't so many of "those people" around.

[limpyhobbler]

28. k&r

[harmonicon]

29. Do they owe us a living?

[xtraxritical]

43. Yeah, that's convincing.

[harmonicon]

47. To each his own. (nt)

[arely staircase]

31. they are trying to do with the word entitlement what they did to liberal in the 80s

i think more pushback is needed. this same bunch (current administration) managed to turn the word "obama-care" from a perjorative to a simple descriptor. never let the oposition define the words to be used.

[Hotler]

39. Into the streets to protest maybe????......

How bad does it have to get before you are willing to take to the streets?????????????

[nightscanner59]

48. We did, called Occupy. It got selective media coverage.

Slanted, slandered and discredited at every attempt to get a message across, in favor of the stupidass TEA party that bamboozled thousands of idiots, but had the backing of the Koch's, the Murdoch's and others who puppeteer this whole country.
If just one more republican takes the reins, like nearly happened with (shudder) Romney (shudder again) there will be unprecedented numbers of unemployed and homeless. Until Occupy has sheer numbers of huddled masses shouting down the white house, it will continue to be ignored.

[longship]

33. You think people are entitled to full time work?

The next thing we'll hear is that they'll be wanting to be paid a living wage for it.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

34. Iraqi citizens are entitled to healthcare as part of their post Saddam constitution.

So why aren't Americans?

[earthbot1]

37. yay

my hours were just cut to 28 a week, because of the new health care regulations....did not want to pay state workers.
so sick of this shit.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

40. This is what the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights has to say.

Article 23.
• (1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
• (2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
• (3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
• (4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.


Article 24.
• Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.


Article 25.
• (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
• (2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.