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By NASSER KARIMI Associated Press
TEHRAN, Iran March 17, 2013 (AP)
Iranian on Sunday launched its domestically built destroyer in the Caspian Sea, the nation's first heavy military presence in the oil-rich sea, state TV reported.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad inaugurated the guided-missile destroyer Jamaran-2 in the port city of Anzali, about 250 kilometers (150 miles) northwest of Tehran.
After final tests, the report said, Jamaran-2 will join Iran's naval fleet in the sea in coming months.
The 1,400-ton destroyer, which has a helicopter landing pad, is 94 meters (yards) long and can cruise at 30 knots. It is equipped to surface-to-surface and surface-to-air missiles as well as anti-aircraft batteries and sophisticated radar and communications terminals, the report said.
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Archae
(46,340 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Archae
(46,340 posts)Comparatively speaking.
But like in Iraq, the insurgents would make life total hell for the troops.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)happened in Iraq and have been preparing for the last 10 years.
Of course we can all pump up our peckers and wag our 'nukes' about...
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)The Iraqi Army, Air Force and Navy would completely cease to exist within 10-21 days after the beginning of any conflict.
That isn't chest thumping or any other metaphor you intend to use. It's a realistic comparison of our two military's. What else would you expect, we spend nearly as much on our military as the rest of the world combined.
The brief battle between the US Military and the Iranian military isn't the real military problem. It's the insurgency and hostile populace that would be many times worse than Iraq and Iraq was horrific.
Brother Buzz
(36,456 posts)Millennium Challenge 2002 war game surprise.
Many war games are scriptedthat is, both Red and Blue officers are required to perform certain attacks and responses. A smaller number are "free play," which means anything goes. Controversy erupted over Millennium Challenge 2002 when the Red forces, commanded by a retired Marine general named Paul Van Riper, engaged in some clever free play tricks that deviated from what the Blues were expecting. Van Riper used virtual motorcycle messengers to relay orders to his virtual field commanders, for example, thereby negating the Americans'er, Blue force'sability to eavesdrop. Mere days into the game, a squad of Red digital soldiers had sunk several Blue ships in the Persian Gulf by carrying out suicide attacks with explosives-laden speedboats. That's not in the script, countered the referees, who ordered the Blue fleet to be magically resurrected.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2002/09/how_do_the_pentagons_war_games_work.html
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)Wasn't it the Falkens War that showed Destroyers to be basically worthless? I wonder how long it would take one of our subs to put it on the bottom at exactly the same time I presume that we have a sub tailing that boat every inch of the sea it travels.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)And I'd like to see one of our subs get into a landlocked sea.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)given it's size at 1400 tons, it would be considered a corvette.
1400 tons would have been considered a very small destroyer even in 1939.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Hell, let them waste a lot of money on those things. Maybe they will get stupid and go broke. I have no doubt some other country would love to profit on their warlust.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)It's somewhere in between the two sizewise, anyway. Iran calls them destroyers (or destroyer escorts), but pretty much everyone else describes them as frigates.
I hadn't considered the idea of any substantial naval presence in the Caspian, though I suppose that makes sense with smaller ships like that.
LeftInTX
(25,508 posts)Tug of war over oil in the Caucus?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)mobility makes targeting a launch site a bit harder...not hard enough to keep advanced technology from hitting it, but harder.