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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:11 PM Mar 2013

Barack Obama on Iraq, 2002: What I am opposed to is a dumb war.

Speech by State Senator Barack Obama, October 2002.

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What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

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But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaida. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with bin Laden and al-Qaida, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings. You want a fight, President Bush?

Let's fight to make sure that the U.N. inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe. You want a fight, President Bush?

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Barack Obama on Iraq, 2002: What I am opposed to is a dumb war. (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2013 OP
And this is one of the reasons he got elected president over some other, war supporting, candidates. PoliticAverse Mar 2013 #1
Why are you reminding us of what he used to be like? n/t Dawgs Mar 2013 #2
Why not? n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #4
Can't handle history? Cha Mar 2013 #5
That's exactly what it is, history. That's one thing I can handle. Dawgs Mar 2013 #11
That's the guy we should have voted for in 2008. denverbill Mar 2013 #3
Yeah, or the one who supported medical marijuana and states rights. EOTE Mar 2013 #7
^^^this^^^ Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #8
x2 truebrit71 Mar 2013 #10
thanks Pro Sense.. I hadn't read that Cha Mar 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Mar 2013 #9

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. And this is one of the reasons he got elected president over some other, war supporting, candidates.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:17 PM
Mar 2013

(primary and general election)

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
11. That's exactly what it is, history. That's one thing I can handle.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 04:54 PM
Mar 2013

The fact that we now have a Democrat that's a war President is what I can't handle.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
7. Yeah, or the one who supported medical marijuana and states rights.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:31 PM
Mar 2013

If that candidate comes back around, I just might vote for him in 2016.

Cha

(297,271 posts)
6. thanks Pro Sense.. I hadn't read that
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:25 PM
Mar 2013

October 2, 2002 speech before I decided to support Obama for my primary candidate but after I did I couldn't believe how prescient and judicious it was.

And, he let us know then how he would have done it.. and it came to pass..

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with bin Laden and al-Qaida, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings. You want a fight, President Bush?

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