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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsExplanation of non-binding Senate votes to reduce estate tax and repeal medical device tax
Senate Budget Debate Shows Support for Increased Revenue, Sales Taxes on Internet Purchases, and More
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Votes taken on amendments during the Senate budget debate are generally not binding. Their greatest significance is that they show whether or not enough votes can be gathered to pass a given proposal in the Senate. For example, the vote on allowing states to require remote retailers to collect sales taxes demonstrates that there are more than the 60 votes needed in the Senate to approve that proposal when it comes to the floor as an actual bill.
But other amendments are not as helpful in determining support for actual legislation, and can be best described as posturing with little real meaning.
For example, the Senate rejected a Republican-sponsored amendment to repeal the estate tax, but then approved by 80-19 an amendment sponsored by Democratic Senator Mark Warner to repeal or reduce the estate tax, but only if done in a fiscally responsible way.
The Senates approval of this amendment does not indicate that an actual bill to reduce or repeal the estate tax would get 60 votes because an actual bill would either have to include specific provisions to offset the costs, or the bill would clearly increase the deficit. There have been votes on such bills in the Senate many times and they have never received the needed 60 votes, much less 80 votes.
To take another example, the Senate voted 79-20 to repeal a tax on medical device manufacturers that was enacted as part of health care reform. This was one of the taxes enacted with the idea that companies that would benefit from health care reform should share in its costs. The budget amendment says that legislation should be passed to repeal the tax provided that such legislation would not increase the deficit.
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http://www.ctj.org/taxjusticedigest/archive/2013/03/senate_budget_debate_shows_sup.php
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Votes taken on amendments during the Senate budget debate are generally not binding. Their greatest significance is that they show whether or not enough votes can be gathered to pass a given proposal in the Senate. For example, the vote on allowing states to require remote retailers to collect sales taxes demonstrates that there are more than the 60 votes needed in the Senate to approve that proposal when it comes to the floor as an actual bill.
But other amendments are not as helpful in determining support for actual legislation, and can be best described as posturing with little real meaning.
For example, the Senate rejected a Republican-sponsored amendment to repeal the estate tax, but then approved by 80-19 an amendment sponsored by Democratic Senator Mark Warner to repeal or reduce the estate tax, but only if done in a fiscally responsible way.
The Senates approval of this amendment does not indicate that an actual bill to reduce or repeal the estate tax would get 60 votes because an actual bill would either have to include specific provisions to offset the costs, or the bill would clearly increase the deficit. There have been votes on such bills in the Senate many times and they have never received the needed 60 votes, much less 80 votes.
To take another example, the Senate voted 79-20 to repeal a tax on medical device manufacturers that was enacted as part of health care reform. This was one of the taxes enacted with the idea that companies that would benefit from health care reform should share in its costs. The budget amendment says that legislation should be passed to repeal the tax provided that such legislation would not increase the deficit.
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http://www.ctj.org/taxjusticedigest/archive/2013/03/senate_budget_debate_shows_sup.php
Here are the roll calls on the two amendments.
To repeal or reduce the estate tax, but only if done in a fiscally responsible way.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00066
NAYs ---19
Baldwin (D-WI)
Brown (D-OH)
Coons (D-DE)
Durbin (D-IL)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Johnson (D-SD)
King (I-ME)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murphy (D-CT)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Udall (D-NM)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
To promote innovation, preserve high-paying jobs, and encourage economic growth for manufacturers of lifesaving medical devices and cutting edge medical therapies.
Roll call: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00047
NAYs ---20
Baucus (D-MT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Carper (D-DE)
Coons (D-DE)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-NM)
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Explanation of non-binding Senate votes to reduce estate tax and repeal medical device tax (Original Post)
ProSense
Mar 2013
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ProSense
(116,464 posts)1. Kick! n/t
ProSense
(116,464 posts)2. Another!
It's a good thing these votes were only posturing.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)3. Yeah, that's weird.
Someone on DU suggested that it was a poison pill of some sort.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1265216#post2
I'm still waiting to hear back from her office on what's up with that.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)4. ?
Wrong thread?
Still, I don't think the label "posion pill" applies here. These were posturing votes.