Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 10:48 AM Feb 2012

Three million long-term unemployed people not being counted by the Labor Department



U.S. nonfarm payrolls grew by 243,000 jobs in January, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Friday, up from a revised 203,000 jobs in December.

***

Still, some perspective is in order: Total nonfarm payroll employment now stands at 132.4 million jobs, after some benchmark revisions, or about 5.6 million jobs lower than the 138 million at the peak in January 2008.

In other words, it will take many more months of this sort of job growth just to get employment back to where it was four years ago.

A recent study by Washington, D.C. consulting firm Hamilton Place Strategies estimates that there may be three million long-term unemployed people who are currently not being counted by the Labor Department because they have simply given up looking for work. Signs of an improving job market might bring them back to the labor force, which would push the unemployment rate higher.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/03/us-economy-adds-tktk-jobs_n_1252209.html
10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Three million long-term unemployed people not being counted by the Labor Department (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Feb 2012 OP
"..that there MAY BE 3 million long-term unemployed..." come on, this gets old uponit7771 Feb 2012 #1
It's all one big "may be" Amerigo Vespucci Feb 2012 #3
Yawn , right on time surfdog Feb 2012 #2
I think that number is larger. But let's not talk about that. Safetykitten Feb 2012 #4
It's only cool to discuss this when a GOPer is in office. City Lights Feb 2012 #5
Wrong surfdog Feb 2012 #8
well this information is in the jobs report Enrique Feb 2012 #9
This comes from Deputy Assistant and Deputy Press Secretary to former President George W. Bush NNN0LHI Feb 2012 #6
Three million chickens that crossed the road not calculated in missing poultry. mfcorey1 Feb 2012 #7
Easy way to change it if you are not counted. Look for work. dmallind Feb 2012 #10

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
3. It's all one big "may be"
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 10:54 AM
Feb 2012

There "may be" a legitimate 8.3 Percent unemployment rate.

There "may be" 3 million long-term unemployed.

We're handed numbers and we believe them, or we don't.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. well this information is in the jobs report
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 11:18 AM
Feb 2012
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

In January, 2.8 million persons were marginally attached to the labor
force, essentially unchanged from a year earlier. (The data are not
seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force,
wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime
in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because
they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey.
(See table A-16.)

Among the marginally attached, there were 1.1 million discouraged
workers in January, little different from a year earlier. (The data
are not seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not
currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available
for them. The remaining 1.7 million persons marginally attached to the
labor force in January had not searched for work in the 4 weeks
preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family
responsibilities. (See table A-16.)

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
6. This comes from Deputy Assistant and Deputy Press Secretary to former President George W. Bush
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 11:00 AM
Feb 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Fratto

Salvatore Antonio "Tony" Fratto (born June 27, 1966) was Deputy Assistant and Deputy Press Secretary to former United States President George W. Bush.

Tony Fratto is managing partner at Hamilton Place Strategies, a strategic communications and crisis management consultancy based in Washington, DC. He is also an on-air contributor on the CNBC Business News Network, addressing current economic policy issues.

Fratto served as Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Press Secretary to President George W. Bush from September 2006 to January 2009. In this role Fratto served as the White House’s lead spokesman and communications advisor on a broad range policy issues in support of President Bush, working directly with the President and senior White House officials, and speaking for the White House to the national press corps from the White House podium and in on-camera interviews.

Fratto represented the Bush Administration on international and domestic economic policy -- including international trade; financial markets; tax policy; banking; and international development. He also served as the White House’s lead spokesman on legal issues, Supreme Court cases, U.S. intelligence issues, terrorist financing and financial crimes.

----------------------------------------------------

Holy shit!

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
10. Easy way to change it if you are not counted. Look for work.
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 11:42 AM
Feb 2012

Just once in a month keeps you in U3. Just once in a whole fricking year keeps you in U6. I see no problem with assuming people who have not looked once in a year are for whatever reason out of the workforce entirely and no more "unemployed" than a billionaire's trophy wife is unemployed. I was unemployed for pretty much all of 2009. There wasn't so much as HALF a week that I didn't look for work by the official definition, let alone four weeks or 52 weeks, and not one damn day when I wasn't looking in some way.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Three million long-term u...