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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGoddamnit! Social Security contributes not one red cent to the deficit!!!!
So, why is Obama offering it as a compromise in the first place?
What the fuck is wrong with this president?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)We need a bumper sticker that says that!
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Not that the politicians will listen, but we still need to keep repeating it.
SugarShack
(1,635 posts)No calls, no door knocking, no cash, no food, NOTHING! We can get this shit staying home.
Now I won't say I told you so, but if you want to do something about this...do NOTHING as the mid terms approach. And tell that Little Debbie Wasserman Shultz!
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Then they'll blame us leftists for not giving Obama what he needs to govern. I'm really starting to think that some right-wing man-behind-the-curtain is rubbing his palms together and laughing with his brilliant plan to foist a faux progressive on us.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)They don't care what the facts are and they don't care what we think.
What's wrong with the President? He's compromised, he's owned. How do you think he got the job?
The owners will never allow someone that is against their interests into office. If one does somehow manage get in they'll kill him either literally or figuratively through character assassination.
Why anyone thinks that elections matter is beyond me. It's corporate candidate a or corporate candidate b, with very little exception.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Yeah, MrSlayer, this is a systemic problem.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)midnight
(26,624 posts)Social Security is not driving the deficit; therefore it should not be part of reforms aimed at cutting the deficit. The chained CPI, deceptively portrayed as a reasonable cost of living adjustment, is a cut to Social Security that would hurt seniors, Mr. Reich says.
There are several sensible reforms to Social Security that should be considered to help make it sustainable, including lifting the ceiling on income subject to Social Security from $113,700 to $200,000 or more, as well as instituting a 1 percent raise in the payroll tax rate, a rate that hasn't changed in over 20 years, Reich adds.
Jim Dean, chairman of Democracy for America and brother of former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean called the news that Obamas budget would include cuts to Social Security a shot across the bow for the progressives who called their neighbors, spent weekends knocking doors, and donated millions to reelect him.
An e-mail from Mr. Dean links to a petition aimed at Congress."
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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/0405/Liberals-to-Obama-not-so-fast-on-Social-Security-cuts
lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts).. The problem is......that he works for the very same Wall Street Banksters as the Repukes.
Both parties answer to the same master.
They want you to believe that there is a difference... because it buys the Banksters more time to cover their tracks.
midnight
(26,624 posts)to pull themselves up by their own boot stapes.. I don't know of a Republican that would align themselves with a Dem...
alarimer
(16,245 posts)He's a Republican, not a progressive.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Remember that "debate"?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)That's why.
savannah43
(575 posts)And that's just the beginning of their plan to turn SS into a private profit making investment for themselves. They are counting on real people getting over anything given a bit of time.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)moderate Republican in Democrat's clothing.
Party name means nothing anymore.
-p
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)If I had a savings account I wouldn't pull something like in Cyprus. But Obama wants to do it anyway.. X_X hopefully it's just a bluff. I don't believe North Korea is bluffing however.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)The problem is, will it work? Or has the GOP managed to spring a trap for PBO to fall in?
rainy
(6,095 posts)Republicans have already said they will not ever raise one more penny in taxes. Obama has always asked foe concessions from both sides and his side has always been to include revenue . He knows they can't do that because their teabilly base will stay home if they give in to new taxes.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)but not FICA taxes. Do it as the baby boomers retire. Follow the money if you can. Watch it change hands.
840high
(17,196 posts)op to the White House.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)...some say he's playing chess; some say he's a DINO, or worse he's a Republican; some say he's practicing bipartisanship ; some say he's kicking us in the gut like he did back in 2009. Maybe he was testing to see if anyone was listening, if anyone was awake.
He once said "TV loves a ruckus." But now it looks like he's the one that loves a ruckus.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)by making the overture to the republicans it paints them into another corner because when they reject it (as I suspect they will) Obama can honestly say he tried to reach a compromise but the republicans were the ones unwilling to deal.
zeeland
(247 posts)points on Real Time with Bill Maher.Try and catch the video when it becomes available.