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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe are being played like a fiddle by the anti-choicers.
As long as we keep chomping down on the red herrings of personhood legislation, we're being masterfully redirected. These laws don't change abortion access one whit. While we focus on the drama of such legislation, the bills that are really designed to shut down abortion clinics in state after state, are passing. Some are being challenged, others aren't. These are the laws that the anti-choice movement wants to get in front of the SCOTUS.
http://reproductiverights.org/en/project/targeted-regulation-of-abortion-providers-trap
boomerbust
(2,181 posts)By the evolving Barack Obama while millions are getting their fucking pockets picked. Obama can play the game with the best of em.
cali
(114,904 posts)duh.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)When are they going to choose to focus on this issue again and work like hell to toss these bozos out? And I mean the main group of voters who say they are for reproductive freedom. They seem to have a strategy of relying on Roe to solve all of their problems.
Voters need to wake up.
lastlib
(23,257 posts)We can't just sleep and expect the S.Ct. to bail us out on these--as long as Scalitomas sit there, that ain't gonna happen.
Ben Franklin said the Constitution formed "a republic--if you can keep it." Roe gave us reproductive rights--"if we can keep it." We have to work our tails off to keep those rights, and that means going all out to throw these GOP doofuses out on their asses wherever they rear their ugly heads. Expect it every election, every campaign, every office.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...where the hell are the young women on this? Where's the movement?
Many of us fought that battle back in the 60s and 70s, and we eventually won it.
I lived through it -- I had an illegal abortion when I was 19 years old. By the time I started my family a few years later, abortion was legal and birth control and family planning and birth control were accepted as normal.
Fast forward to today, and in some states women as a practical matter can't get an abortion. In even more states, they can't get a late term abortion, even if it is medically necessary to save the mother's life. Some politicians are even trying to restrict access to birth control, and the religious right is smack dab in the middle of that effort.
But it seems like half the young women I talk to hold a so-called "pro-life" position. I prefer to call it a "forced-birth" position, and I always point out to them that if the government can force you to bear a child, that same government can turn around and force you to have an abortion. They don't want to hear it. Ideology trumps logic once again.
The bottom line for me is, our daughters don't want to fight the fight. Fine, girls. You'll find out.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)You know a heck of a lot more about these state abortion issues than I do. One thing I can't understand: how do we challenge these types of legislation in states that are 2-1 in favor of it?
Can we only challenge these through the courts? Because it seems like a democratic challenge is near impossible in deeply red states.
cali
(114,904 posts)Those are the two major actors in challenging abortion restrictions. The problem is that there are so many of these new and newish laws that they have to pick and choose.
Yes, the best way is to challenge in the courts.
Thanks for asking.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)I feel overwhelmed looking at these anti-choice state legislatures. Voters just keep voting them in.
Hopefully the courts will do the right thing.
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