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Before and After (Original Post) 1monster Apr 2013 OP
K & R Timbuk3 Apr 2013 #1
K & R - evil bastard. - n/t fleur-de-lisa Apr 2013 #2
More people need to see this. Warpy Apr 2013 #3
History tells a story... ReRe Apr 2013 #4
It was during Reagan's tenure that the streets were flooded with homeless people. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #5
Yes indeed Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2013 #40
Hey, I worked in Uptown at that same time, I think it was on Sheridan Rd. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #44
Greed is good Samantha Apr 2013 #6
Pedantic mode on: jeff47 Apr 2013 #7
Does any more really need to be said? Brigid Apr 2013 #8
pitch ellennelle Apr 2013 #9
Yeah, it's a problem for me, too. I mouseclick to get 'view image' to enlarge it. freshwest Apr 2013 #28
I just reposted it. You could send a message to Citizens Un Tied's Facebook page... 1monster Apr 2013 #32
K & R AzDar Apr 2013 #10
August 5th, 1981 . . . The Day Worker Progress Got Stomped. HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #11
K&R SunSeeker Apr 2013 #12
title should be 'before and after reagan' Coyotl Apr 2013 #13
And as Thom Hartmann always says, US was the largest Creditor nation, pre-Reagan, now the ....... ErikJ Apr 2013 #14
Never liked that guy. tblue Apr 2013 #15
ditto, ditto, and ditto to give us his son Ron Reagan. eom a kennedy Apr 2013 #33
Things aren't all that bad: CEO's are doing well. lexw Apr 2013 #16
Oh, something is trickling down, alright. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #17
:D lexw Apr 2013 #20
A line from the Outlaw Josie Wales... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #22
Nice quote from a great movie! lexw Apr 2013 #23
That movie had a bunch of them. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #24
Damn you! I'm going to have to look it up and watch it again. lexw Apr 2013 #25
I own it... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #26
Man. I need to see it again. I didn't remember he was in it. lexw Apr 2013 #27
... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #37
I've never been an Eastwood fan, but I could watch THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES a dozen times 1monster Apr 2013 #38
And this guy is nearly a GOD to the GOP... Lobo27 Apr 2013 #18
He fooled most of the country. lexw Apr 2013 #21
kr HiPointDem Apr 2013 #19
And Republicans Wonder Why They Are Reviled cantbeserious Apr 2013 #29
I've been paying attention in earnest since my trip to Vietnam' madokie Apr 2013 #30
I loved it when Dumbya exchanged our nuclear technology to India for cheap mangoes. GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #31
The sad irony of the Reagan worship on the right Bettie Apr 2013 #34
It's not ALL his fault ...I blame Clinton too. L0oniX Apr 2013 #35
Can't go back. . . h2ebits Apr 2013 #36
A lot of this could also be said of the UK, under the influence of his dear pal Maggie LeftishBrit Apr 2013 #39
Fuck him! Boy I'm in a bad mood. Little Star Apr 2013 #41
Bookmarked Boomerproud Apr 2013 #42
Agreed! n/t Still Sensible Apr 2013 #43

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
40. Yes indeed
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 08:06 PM
Apr 2013

I remember seeing many of them in the Uptown section of Chicago. Not only were they homeless, many were unmedicated schizophrenics left to wander alone and abandoned. Some did not even have the wherewithal to beg. Sickening!

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
44. Hey, I worked in Uptown at that same time, I think it was on Sheridan Rd.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 11:19 PM
Apr 2013

I was auditing for the Retail Clerks Union.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. Pedantic mode on:
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:43 AM
Apr 2013

"Second world" countries isn't right.

The "worlds" originated during the cold war.

"First world" was the US, Western Europe and allies.
"Second world" was the USSR, China, and the communist bloc
"Third world" was everyone else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
28. Yeah, it's a problem for me, too. I mouseclick to get 'view image' to enlarge it.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 05:00 AM
Apr 2013

Or else I'd miss half these things.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
11. August 5th, 1981 . . . The Day Worker Progress Got Stomped.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:57 AM
Apr 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Air_Traffic_Controllers_Organization_(1968)

Michael Moore said that Reagan's firing of the PATCO strikers was the beginning of "America's downward slide", and the end of comfortable union jobs, with a middle-class salary, raises, and pensions. Moore stated that wages have remained stagnant for 30 years. He also blamed the AFL-CIO for telling their members to cross the PATCO picket lines.

President Reagan's director of the United States Office of Personnel Management at the time, Donald J. Devine, argued that "when the president said no...American business leaders were given a lesson in managerial leadership that they could not and did not ignore. Many private sector executives have told me that they were able to cut the fat from their organizations and adopt more competitive work practices because of what the government did in those days. I would not be surprised if these unseen effects of this private sector shakeout under the inspiration of the president were as profound in influencing the recovery that occurred as the formal economic and fiscal programs."

In 2011, Oxford University Press published Joseph McCartin's book, "Collision Course: Ronald Reagan, The Air Traffic Controllers, and the Strike that Changed America". Reviewing the book in Review 31, Richard Sharpe claimed Reagan was "laying down a marker" for his presidency: "The strikers were often working class men and women who had achieved suburban middle class lives as air traffic controllers without having gone to college. Many were veterans of the US armed forces where they had learned their skills; their union had backed Reagan in his election campaign. Nevertheless, Reagan refused to back down. Several strikers were jailed; the union was fined and eventually made bankrupt. Only about 800 got their jobs back when Clinton lifted the ban on rehiring those who had struck. Many of the strikers were forced into poverty as a result of being blacklisted for employment."


Oh, and to top himself . . . the following year, he signed the Garn/St Germain bill, which relaxed FDR-era limits on thrifts and sent banksters and speculators on their 80s financial/real estate piracy, setting a precedent in the form of taking a big black axe to the savings and well being of seniors and workers. The S & L Crisis of the 80s happened in no small part due to this horrible piece of legislation. All part of the Reagan-fused "Great Risk Shift" which continues unabated to this day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garn_-_St_Germain_Depository_Institutions_Act

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
14. And as Thom Hartmann always says, US was the largest Creditor nation, pre-Reagan, now the .......
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 01:43 AM
Apr 2013

largest Debtor nation.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
15. Never liked that guy.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 01:53 AM
Apr 2013

Never voted for him. Never believed him. Never forgave him. Never wanted to think about him. The only decent thing he ever did was give us his son, Ron Reagan.

lexw

(804 posts)
16. Things aren't all that bad: CEO's are doing well.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 01:58 AM
Apr 2013

It'll trickle down eventually.
You were expecting it to trickle in a mere 30 years?
C'mon be realistic!

lexw

(804 posts)
20. :D
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 02:37 AM
Apr 2013

When I first heard that phrase used years ago, I knew what they meant. And boy did it come to reality during Bush and Cheney.

It really sucks when a president—especially a popular one (I guess he was popular, I didn't like him)—looks his country in the eyes and tells them this will be good for the country...when he knows damn well it's only good for a few.
Arrgh!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
22. A line from the Outlaw Josie Wales...
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 02:53 AM
Apr 2013

"dont piss down my back and tell me it's raining" comes to mind

1monster

(11,012 posts)
38. I've never been an Eastwood fan, but I could watch THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES a dozen times
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 01:51 PM
Apr 2013

and not feel that I'd seen it enough.

Whether or not he recognizes it, this movie was his master work.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
30. I've been paying attention in earnest since my trip to Vietnam'
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 07:31 AM
Apr 2013

it was and still is in my as well as my countries better interest too. I'm a witness to this decline and that is why I very much dislike this reagan cretin of a caricature of a man

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
31. I loved it when Dumbya exchanged our nuclear technology to India for cheap mangoes.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 08:20 AM
Apr 2013
Mr Bush pledged that his visit to Pakistan later in the week would go ahead, despite a bomb blast that killed a US diplomat and at least three others near the US consulate in Karachi on Thursday.

And he said "the US is looking forward to eating Indian mangoes", under an agreement to expand trade in farm products.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4764826.stm

Bettie

(16,112 posts)
34. The sad irony of the Reagan worship on the right
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

Is that today, he'd be reviled as a leftist.

And he is the one who engineered (or the people around him as I don't think he was all that bright himself) our slide into our current economic state.

Still, the Right worships him.

I don't understand them at all.

Boomerproud

(7,960 posts)
42. Bookmarked
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 09:05 PM
Apr 2013

Every Ronnie idolator should have to read it and explain why every word isn't the gospel truth.

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