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alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:33 PM Apr 2013

Just for Fun Speculation: Maybe the Front Man wasn't the Older Tsarnaev, but the Younger

Super interesting blog post making the rounds:

http://jesterscourt.cc/2013/04/23/boston-marathon-bombing-just-a-hunch/

Long story short: blog suggests it was Dzhokar Tsarnaev who built and tested the bombs (explaining some weird explosive reports two plus weeks ago south of Boston), a point perhaps supported by the presence of fuses in his dorm room, and that numerous tweets made by young Dzhokar and others are very curious indeed.

This story keeps getting wilder.

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Just for Fun Speculation: Maybe the Front Man wasn't the Older Tsarnaev, but the Younger (Original Post) alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 OP
Oh. My. Gawd. This is a must read. Wowza... K&R nt riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #1
One of Dzokhar's friends tweets "Glenn Beck is telling the truth!" JaneyVee Apr 2013 #2
Interesting.....have these friends been interviewed? Some station needs to get them front Gin Apr 2013 #3
He is a demon! A DEMON! randome Apr 2013 #4
Nope. It documents how Dzhokhar and his friends were practicing blowing shit up in the weeks riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #5
Hmm.... Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #6
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Apr 2013 #7
Additionally: four things we know Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #8
Very, very interesting. liberalmuse Apr 2013 #9
Very interesting and I think the jester is on to something here. Old and In the Way Apr 2013 #10
Link to Mar. 27 story about the mystery explosions in Hanover, MA csziggy Apr 2013 #11
Fireworks show alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #14
Fireworks in March? csziggy Apr 2013 #18
That's what they're calling it in the Twitter conversation alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #19
The jester is very riveting in his case Cha Apr 2013 #12
Hopefully the FBI knows about this LeftInTX Apr 2013 #13
lol. just read the whole crazy fairy tale at the link. cali Apr 2013 #15
I'll reserve judgement on this front, but user_name Apr 2013 #16
K&R. Wow. n/t MelungeonWoman Apr 2013 #17
pm kick! nt riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #20
fascinating n/t librechik Apr 2013 #21
Intriguing! I wonder if frogmarch Apr 2013 #22
At first, I thought the younger was the 'stronger' in this folie à deux REP Apr 2013 #23
FBI at least working on a theory that fireworks were involved alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #24
Troy Crossley is now marketing the #FreeJahar fanclub Old and In the Way Apr 2013 #25

Gin

(7,212 posts)
3. Interesting.....have these friends been interviewed? Some station needs to get them front
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:48 PM
Apr 2013

And center....the practice bombs needed people and a place.....these guys may not have dropped the bombs but thier words have deeper meanings in light of the bombing.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
5. Nope. It documents how Dzhokhar and his friends were practicing blowing shit up in the weeks
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:57 PM
Apr 2013

preceding the Boston Marathon bombings.

And then how those tweets and messages were instantly deleted once Dzhokhar was ID'd.

And the interesting info about a certain friend and some alias'....

But you'd have to actually read the OP's link.



Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
8. Additionally: four things we know
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 09:49 PM
Apr 2013

1. Dzokhar returned to school in the period after the bombing but before the FBI put out the pix.
2. Tamerlan was the carjacker.
3. Dzokhar ran over Tamerlan and killed him.
4. Dzokhar - it appears - tried to commit suicide.

So, here's the scenario: FBI puts out pix, Tamerlan panics, kills MIT cop, hijacks car, gets Dzokhar. Dzokhar blows a gasket, realizing Tamerlan just outed the two of them. In the gunfight, he runs the car over Tamerlan to kill him, both out of rage AND to prevent him from talking. Afterwards, he attempts to take his own life both out of desperation and a desire to protect the others.

How's that? Seems almost plausible.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
9. Very, very interesting.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 10:10 PM
Apr 2013

The BS on the internets about "teh conspiracy" is getting pretty thick in some places. Good link! I think I'm going to drop this in a few of said places - kind of like a stink bomb, LOL.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
10. Very interesting and I think the jester is on to something here.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 11:24 PM
Apr 2013

Suspect#2 may have gained his technical expertise through these 'fireworks' events, but I also think #1 was the sociopath influence. The other event members could well have been duped about #2's true intentions...but they seem to be good leads for the FBI to follow up on.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. Link to Mar. 27 story about the mystery explosions in Hanover, MA
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 11:47 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.patriotledger.com/news/x711938623/Hanover-bombs-a-mystery-to-police

Hanover bombs a mystery to police
By Neal Simpson
The Patriot Ledger
Posted Mar 27, 2013 @ 02:49 AM
Print Comment
HANOVER —

Police and fire investigators are trying to determine who has been setting off a series of homemade explosives near Route 53 in recent weeks.

Fire Chief Jeffrey Blanchard said the explosions have not caused any injuries or property damage, but the State Police bomb squad had to be called in after two unexploded devices were found near Pine Street and Tower Hill Drive on March 12. Police had been sent to the area after witnesses at the Target store on the other side of Route 53 reported seeing a bright flash and hearing two explosions.

Fire crews were also called to the nearby intersection of Hearthstone and Fieldstone lanes on March 15 for a report of an explosion, but no devices were found. Blanchard said investigators have since talked with residents who reported hearing other explosions in the past but did not call 911 to report them.

Read more: Hanover bombs a mystery to police - Quincy, MA - The Patriot Ledger http://www.patriotledger.com/news/x711938623/Hanover-bombs-a-mystery-to-police#ixzz2RFqxOdyR
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So there were numerous explosions and in the later ones, no devices were found? Plenty of opportunity for developing their bomb making skills.
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
14. Fireworks show
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:36 AM
Apr 2013

I have to think that this will lead to future protocols: if there are mysterious explosions in an area, you go full court press on terror prevention. There should be a local FD/FBI database of non-explained explosive reports.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. Fireworks in March?
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:19 AM
Apr 2013

I wonder if the Hanover police still have the remains of the device they did find. It would be interesting if it used the same green cord the Boston explosive devices did - the same that was found in Suspect #2's dorm room.

Cha

(297,305 posts)
12. The jester is very riveting in his case
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:11 AM
Apr 2013

for looking at these twitter buds of Jahar and Jahar himself at not being someone who was just sucked in by his big bro.

"lemony snicket" and Alice, too.. curious and curiouser

Remember if their twitter accounts are deleted.. it's the Goverment not them. right.

thanks alcibiades

user_name

(60 posts)
16. I'll reserve judgement on this front, but
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:01 AM
Apr 2013

am I the only one who thought that the little brother's photos were much creepier than the older brother's? I have yet to see a photo of him smiling.

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
22. Intriguing! I wonder if
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 03:29 PM
Apr 2013

investigators re-examining the case, now with Tamerlan Tsarnaev in mind as the possible killer, could question Dzhokhar to see what information he might have on the case.

REP

(21,691 posts)
23. At first, I thought the younger was the 'stronger' in this folie à deux
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 03:53 PM
Apr 2013

When more details came out, I thought my first impression may have been wrong. Now I have no friggin' idea.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
24. FBI at least working on a theory that fireworks were involved
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:49 PM
Apr 2013
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324235304578440843633991044.html

That could either explain or explain away Dzhokhar's tweets of March 20 and thereabouts. Maybe they really were setting off fireworks. But why? Interesting, in any case.

I heard numerous experts today say that the fireworks listed couldn't have served as the explosives for the kinds of bombs they made. So maybe it's moot.
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