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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 10:39 PM Apr 2013

HEADS UP = Frontline tonight = Is “Top Secret America” Making Us Safer?

Apr. 30, 2013, streaming online right now and on the program tonight:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/topsecretamerica/


Top Secret America

FRONTLINE investigates the journey from 9/11 to the Marathon bombings & the secret history of America's battle against terrorism.

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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
1. Drone attacks "It's just war. It's no different than a, going to the store, buying some eggs."
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 10:55 PM
Apr 2013

That's 13:50 into the program, Lt. General Delong.

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. I am glad they gave Richard Clarke the tag line.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 10:57 PM
Apr 2013

I really like him. He is a very sensible guy.

He more or less pointed out that after 9/11 we went overboard. We should have asked for more security, but we may have gotten too much, which doesn't necessarily make us more secure.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. It's not about security. It's about tax dollars to contractors
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:02 PM
Apr 2013

It's all one big con. "Security" is a code word for cost-plus contracts. Look at how many new contractors are old Cold War government guys.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. ^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ +1000000000000000
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:05 PM
Apr 2013

It is all about transfer of wealth form everyone to a few, fat, hungry capitalist pigs having a banquet at the public trough.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. Why else would venture capitalists buy small upstart security and inv companies?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:07 PM
Apr 2013

Been there, saw that, and quit.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
6. Plus retired general officers go to these companies and cash in in executive positions who then
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:24 PM
Apr 2013

use their connections to get more contracts.

And if you look at the larger defense company contractors job postings, they are seeking only former military MOS specific jobs such as Former MOS 35L, 351L, 35E, or DoD (counterintelligence) civilian/joint service equivalents.
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/jobs/list/q-35l

One hand feeds the other and the cycle repeats.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
7. The biggest con is there is no product nor enemy
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:33 PM
Apr 2013

They get paid for a service that serves no purpose.

At least defense contractors often have to build a weapon. These guys analyse data produce reports that go in circles.

 

MellowYellow

(35 posts)
9. Agree, Especially when the rest of us are paying for it by way
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:47 PM
Apr 2013

of our tax dollars since the rich are obviously stashing theirs off shore so they don't have to pay for it.

i'd much prefer my tax dollars were spent on making the world a better place. Blowing up babies with drones doesn't do that.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
10. Today, just the interest is being paid, future generation will still be paying for this.
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:48 AM
May 2013

First they take all the money, then they loan it back and collect interest for a lifetime.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. The 'security' business if very profitable, but not much good for the rest of us. After
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:41 PM
Apr 2013

building massive 'security' institutions, spending trillions of dollars, spying on Americans (but not on actual terrorists apparently) engaging in so many wars we've lost count, it has all been one big failure. Apparently we are in as much danger as we were, maybe more, than when this huge Con Job began 12 years ago.

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