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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Wed May 1, 2013, 05:35 PM May 2013

"There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted

to get done, just because the president wanted to do it," Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) admitted on Tuesday in an interview with Digital First Media editors in the offices of the Times Herald newspaper in Norristown, Pa.

Rachel Maddow:

I think the senator's candor is important for a couple of key reasons. The first, of course, is that it puts the debate over gun reforms in a fresh light. You'll recall that two weeks ago, much of the political commentary surrounding the Senate vote focused on holding President Obama responsible -- he didn't "twist arms" enough; he didn't "lead" enough; he didn't act like an Aaron Sorkin character enough. Blame the White House, we were told, for Republican intransigence.

According to Toomey -- who presumably has a pretty good sense of the motivations of his own colleagues in his own party -- the media's blame game had it backwards. No amount of presidential arm-twisting can overcome the will of lawmakers who want to defeat the president's agenda because it's the president's agenda.

... Republican policymakers are post-policy, that the policy actually -- even some things that seem like constants don't actually a matter them, that it's pure politics, just positioning themselves vis-a-vis the president, and they're not actually invested in any particular outcome for the country.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/05/01/18001650-toomeys-candor-sheds-light-on-post-policy-party?lite
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"There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted (Original Post) pampango May 2013 OP
Why My My: What a SURPRISE! MagickMuffin May 2013 #1
not that i'm suggesting this, but at some point you gotta wonder: unblock May 2013 #2
"Post-policy": bingo frazzled May 2013 #3

unblock

(52,241 posts)
2. not that i'm suggesting this, but at some point you gotta wonder:
Wed May 1, 2013, 05:55 PM
May 2013

would republicans oppose the president even if obama were to propose a tax cut for the rich?

remember that they opposed (and still oppose) obamacare even though it was thought up by a right-wing think tank and first enacted by rmoney as governor of massachusetts.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. "Post-policy": bingo
Wed May 1, 2013, 06:26 PM
May 2013

That is precisely it. They have absolutely no interest whatsoever in advancing any particular policy, even policy they themselves have proposed in the recent past ... it's just a power game for them, either against the president or for their own individual fortunes, political or financial.

We've entered the post-policy era. Let's not let our side fall down that same rabbit hole.

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