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BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:06 AM May 2013

People Are Giving Their Pets Medical Marijuana

"Is it ever a good idea to get your dog or cat stoned? California veterinarian Doug Kramer says the answer depends on whether your pet could be classified as a medical marijuana patient.

"I do think there are therapeutic benefits to it," says Kramer, who some years ago found that his homemade pot tinctures helped his own dog, a husky named Nikita, fight pain and regain her appetite after she came down with cancer.

Despite the spread of medical pot laws around the country, marijuana still remains taboo within the veterinary establishment; its medical journals won't publish anything about it, and Kramer is one of the few veterinarians even willing to discuss using medical marijuana for pets. He points out that a slew of medical studies on the effects of pot have relied on rats and dogs as substitutes for humans, suggesting that "mammals have the same cannabinoid receptors as humans do" and "would benefit in the same ways."


Perhaps the nation's only overtly 420-friendly vet, Kramer has crowdsourced a slew of research on pot for pets. Through submissions to his website, VetGuru.com, and surveys distributed at pot dispensaries, he has amassed more than 500 case studies, the vast majority of them positive, he says. Most people use cannabis to treat their dogs and cats for pain, seizures, and inflammation stemming from arthritis. About 20 percent of phone calls to Kramer's office now come from other cannabis-curious vets."

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/05/medical-marijuana-pets-dogs-cats-horses

Side effect: Bad case of the munchies.

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People Are Giving Their Pets Medical Marijuana (Original Post) BainsBane May 2013 OP
I want to know why catnip doesn't make *people* go crazy, rub it all over their faces, and roll Warren DeMontague May 2013 #1
Dunno BainsBane May 2013 #2
Yes, I've heard that nutmeg can induce powerful hallucinations as well as powerful nausea. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #3
or getting the ganja in Fido's name BainsBane May 2013 #5
If we're at the point where people are getting fake notes from their vets to score kind bud Warren DeMontague May 2013 #7
I would have thought BainsBane May 2013 #8
I think it's getting there. Slowly. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #11
LOL! Damn dogs hog it all up Politicalboi May 2013 #14
Nutmeg doesn't get you stoned, it makes you trip balls. Scootaloo May 2013 #4
I won't BainsBane May 2013 #6
Not all cats react to catnip. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #9
Interesting. Every one I've ever had, has loved it. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #10
I had two that didn't... awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #13
You've never tried catnip? Politicalboi May 2013 #12
Okay, fine, I admit it Warren DeMontague May 2013 #15
I've had catnip tea Recursion May 2013 #19
What compelled you to make catnip tea? BainsBane May 2013 #25
The presence of catnip, marjoram, and boiling water Recursion May 2013 #26
LOL BainsBane May 2013 #27
They seem to beg to taste the sweet smoke In_The_Wind May 2013 #16
Guess we need to learn to keep our brownies safe then LostOne4Ever May 2013 #17
I smoke my goldfish up all the time. ZombieHorde May 2013 #18
Do you share the munchies with him afterward? BainsBane May 2013 #21
Awesome. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #22
did you convert your goldfish bowl into a bong? 0rganism May 2013 #23
could be dangerous BainsBane May 2013 #24
My dog is 15 years old. Maine-ah May 2013 #20
My Cat gets loaded all the time..... Bennyboy May 2013 #28
wasn't it about 10 years ago that putting pets on prozac was all the rage? 0rganism May 2013 #29
My cats don't like if I blow the smoke near them, but they also seem to want to hang out nearby. kestrel91316 May 2013 #30

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
1. I want to know why catnip doesn't make *people* go crazy, rub it all over their faces, and roll
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:13 AM
May 2013

around in it on the kitchen floor in semi-ecstatic spasms.

No, seriously. What's up with that?

BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
2. Dunno
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:15 AM
May 2013

I'm sure a science person could tell you.

There is lots of stuff in the garden that will make you stoned though. When I lived in Florida I had trumpet flowers in my garden. There was a craze of kids smoking it. A number ended up overdosing and dying.

Nutmeg will make you stoned if you eat enough of it, or so I've read.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. Yes, I've heard that nutmeg can induce powerful hallucinations as well as powerful nausea.
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:19 AM
May 2013

Not, from accounts I've read, a particularly pleasant high.

Good thing in my errant, wayward youth we had the old fashioned standbys, I never had the inclination go on a serious Penzey's bender.

Still, it's an interesting ... effect that catnip has on the feline brain, and it does seem to be exclusive to cats. It's weird.

It doesn't surprise me that other mammals might have cannabinoid receptors just like we do, although I do wonder how much of this is really "medical marijuana for pets" and not "let's get whiskers and bosco high"

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
7. If we're at the point where people are getting fake notes from their vets to score kind bud
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:32 AM
May 2013

it really is time to re-evaluate the drug war.

BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
8. I would have thought
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:34 AM
May 2013

the bodies littering the border and inner cities and world's largest prison population would have prompted such an evaluation, but not so.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
11. I think it's getting there. Slowly.
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:41 AM
May 2013

Lot of people invested in that gravy train, but I think the voices for sanity are louder than they've ever been.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
14. LOL! Damn dogs hog it all up
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:48 AM
May 2013

They never pass the joint either, and when you say something about it, they growl. I would think animals would take it in pill or liquid form, not smoking. Smoking is the "high", ingesting with no heating, or igniting is for pain only, no high. You have to heat MJ up for the high.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. Nutmeg doesn't get you stoned, it makes you trip balls.
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:19 AM
May 2013

You have to ingest a hell of a lot of it (imagine burping eggnog for a week) for it to have an effect, the trip is short (20 minutes to an hour) and it leaves you feeling like you got run over by a bunch of drunken frat kids, as the toxins settle into your muscles and ensure that you will never, ever again do something dumb like eat a whole jar of nutmeg

Don't do nutmeg, it just isn't worth it

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
12. You've never tried catnip?
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:42 AM
May 2013

You are missing out. Besides, you would be amazed what you may find under your refrigerator while rolling on the floor. It's a hoot!
Excuse me while I sharpen my nails on the rug.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
18. I smoke my goldfish up all the time.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:21 AM
May 2013

I often suspect he's just faking having glaucoma, but I don't judge.

Maine-ah

(9,902 posts)
20. My dog is 15 years old.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:24 AM
May 2013

Black lab mix. I attribute her longevity to the contact highs she has had over the years.

0rganism

(23,959 posts)
29. wasn't it about 10 years ago that putting pets on prozac was all the rage?
Mon May 6, 2013, 04:30 PM
May 2013

I'd 1000X rather smoke out with my dog than dose her with an SSRI. just sayin'.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
30. My cats don't like if I blow the smoke near them, but they also seem to want to hang out nearby.
Mon May 6, 2013, 04:54 PM
May 2013

And they will try to grab the brownies right out of my hand.

We don't know the safe dose, and if the DEA got wind of any vet doing this, their DEA registration could be in jeopardy. So I don't advise my clients to try it on kitties.

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