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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA simple question?
Which is more important? Getting people to vote or educating them on the issues?
As we know, a lot of people vote against their own interest. Mostly, it is because they are ignorant and uneducated. We can work our butts off every election to try and get them to the polls or we can try to educate them on the issues?
Which do you think is the most important?
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)the issues are irrelvant at this point
getting the draconians out of office, or rendering them obsolete is more important
because one sure as hell ain't gonna get any issue they like from those people.
kentuck
(111,106 posts)They would not have sat out the 2010 elections. How do you convince them to go to the polls and vote Democratic if they distrust both Parties??
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)wedge issues are stupid and all issues are just wedge issues
either vote straight democratic or whine
Ralph Nader liked the whine, whine made him 4 million dollars making him a 1% and rich.
and he never had to again work a job in his life. Just sit in the sun in a pool or whatever he does for fun (laugh at Al Gore perhaps?)
If Ralph was a democratic candidate, I would vote for him.
It matters little who or what. Just vote staight democratic
kentuck
(111,106 posts)Not serious.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)A Red Sox fan doesn't vote for Yankees
A Yankees fan don't vote for Red Sox
If a Red Sox is traded to Yankees, the Yankees are fans and the Red Sox boo
life is truly simple once things are uncomplicated.
and it is serious. NO draconian republican will do anything for a democratic voter
All republicans will vote for the draconian in off year
and yet, the democratic party is being told to fracture again. How dumb is that?
Which is why presidential years are now assuredly democratic
GOTV and the democratic person wins
fracutre and the republican person wins
kentuck
(111,106 posts)Many people will vote for her positions on the issues. If they perceive she is a corporatist, they will not vote for her. It doesn't matter if she says she is a Democrat.
I would agree that politics has become like your favorite sports team....and that sucks to high heaven.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)kentuck
(111,106 posts)They were 90% and we were 10%. But we were proven right about the wars and about what a moron George W Bush truly was. We were proven right that the Democrats that went along were wrong. So those numbers mean very little to me...
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)so do you want to posulate or elect a Bush?
If you don't like Bush, why elect Jeb?
Please entertain us and tell me ONE candidate who is not a democratic candidate who one should vote for?
Talking about CANDIDATE now.
Not republican individual who votes. A candidate.
and why only think in terms of Bush? Life went on before Bush, and its now been years since one is in office.
Thank God John Edwards(the fraud) never got anywhere near the Presidency.
kentuck
(111,106 posts)You can't horse collar people and force them to vote. You have to give them a reason to vote and it has to be better than "He's a Democrat". Otherwise, it is all a silly game.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Nader did and still does-he tells people both are the same, and the negativity means people in 2000 didn't bother and people who listen to that fake meme won't bother in 2013
kentuck
(111,106 posts)Al Gore won the popular vote by more than 500,000 votes.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)NH 4 votes
Bush didn't get seated
MineralMan
(146,320 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Get them to the polls. Educate them on the way. Remember to vote yourself.
kentuck
(111,106 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)maybe give a sheet of paper to the voters
DEMOCRATIC
kentuck
(111,106 posts)I'm sure you are correct that many people are satisfied with Party affiliation alone. But a Democrat that is a war monger or a Democrat that cuts Social Security benefits or a Democrat that destroys Medicare or a Democrat that supports Republican policies is no Democrat at all... Many voters will not buy that.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Whatever President Obama wants is 100% fine by me
I will go by the logic that whatever an altmedia wants, anyone who reads that altmedia
will agree with them100% of the time
and everyone will agree 100% of the time with anyone who 'likes' that person agreeing with them
In a way, its just like conspiracy theories and theorists
100% of the time, if you trust the person who is throwing the breadcrumbs you will believe whatever it is they are saying
So, one goes with %.
no one is 100%, but those closest are the best.
If the haters hate Barack Obama, like Rand Paul and Ron Paul and Ralph Nader and David Duke do(and anyone else), then 100% of the time, I will never listen to any of them ever again.
It works every single time.
No matter which wedge issue or what, which name or what
because everyone has an angle, there is noone who doesn't and everyone now plays their angle 100% of the time.
If you agreed with me, you would agree with me.
If you don't agree with me, you won't.
see, it's simple.