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kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Mon May 6, 2013, 07:59 PM May 2013

A simple question?

Which is more important? Getting people to vote or educating them on the issues?

As we know, a lot of people vote against their own interest. Mostly, it is because they are ignorant and uneducated. We can work our butts off every election to try and get them to the polls or we can try to educate them on the issues?

Which do you think is the most important?

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A simple question? (Original Post) kentuck May 2013 OP
Voting straight democratic in 2013,2014,2015,2016 and forever more there won't be problems graham4anything May 2013 #1
If people were educated... kentuck May 2013 #3
vote straight democratic and the pieces can fall in place. Educate voters to VOTE graham4anything May 2013 #5
Too simple. kentuck May 2013 #8
It is that simple. Sorry it's not the answer you wanted. The issues don't matter. graham4anything May 2013 #9
I'm sorry but people are not going to vote for Hillary just because she is a Democrat... kentuck May 2013 #10
80-20. graham4anything May 2013 #13
When I first signed on to DU... kentuck May 2013 #14
10 out of 10 times, voting for the NON-democratic candidate will get you Jeb Bush graham4anything May 2013 #15
The trick is to get people to vote at all... kentuck May 2013 #16
Ralph Nader was the #1 don't bother to vote offender. Yet people defend him, why? graham4anything May 2013 #17
What are you talking about? People didn't bother to vote? kentuck May 2013 #18
Not where it counted. 10 million less voted in 2000 than other modern elections graham4anything May 2013 #19
GOTV! MineralMan May 2013 #2
Ideally, both Half-Century Man May 2013 #4
Good answer! kentuck May 2013 #6
Educate them by taking a pointer- show DEMOCRATIC and then pointer straight ticket graham4anything May 2013 #7
And that is all that people need to know? kentuck May 2013 #11
if you know the answer, why start a thread with a question mark?. graham4anything May 2013 #12
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
1. Voting straight democratic in 2013,2014,2015,2016 and forever more there won't be problems
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:02 PM
May 2013

the issues are irrelvant at this point
getting the draconians out of office, or rendering them obsolete is more important

because one sure as hell ain't gonna get any issue they like from those people.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
3. If people were educated...
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:05 PM
May 2013

They would not have sat out the 2010 elections. How do you convince them to go to the polls and vote Democratic if they distrust both Parties??

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
5. vote straight democratic and the pieces can fall in place. Educate voters to VOTE
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:09 PM
May 2013

wedge issues are stupid and all issues are just wedge issues

either vote straight democratic or whine

Ralph Nader liked the whine, whine made him 4 million dollars making him a 1% and rich.
and he never had to again work a job in his life. Just sit in the sun in a pool or whatever he does for fun (laugh at Al Gore perhaps?)

If Ralph was a democratic candidate, I would vote for him.
It matters little who or what. Just vote staight democratic

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
9. It is that simple. Sorry it's not the answer you wanted. The issues don't matter.
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:37 PM
May 2013

A Red Sox fan doesn't vote for Yankees
A Yankees fan don't vote for Red Sox
If a Red Sox is traded to Yankees, the Yankees are fans and the Red Sox boo

life is truly simple once things are uncomplicated.

and it is serious. NO draconian republican will do anything for a democratic voter
All republicans will vote for the draconian in off year
and yet, the democratic party is being told to fracture again. How dumb is that?

Which is why presidential years are now assuredly democratic

GOTV and the democratic person wins

fracutre and the republican person wins

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
10. I'm sorry but people are not going to vote for Hillary just because she is a Democrat...
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:15 PM
May 2013

Many people will vote for her positions on the issues. If they perceive she is a corporatist, they will not vote for her. It doesn't matter if she says she is a Democrat.

I would agree that politics has become like your favorite sports team....and that sucks to high heaven.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
14. When I first signed on to DU...
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:47 PM
May 2013

They were 90% and we were 10%. But we were proven right about the wars and about what a moron George W Bush truly was. We were proven right that the Democrats that went along were wrong. So those numbers mean very little to me...

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
15. 10 out of 10 times, voting for the NON-democratic candidate will get you Jeb Bush
Tue May 7, 2013, 04:29 AM
May 2013

so do you want to posulate or elect a Bush?
If you don't like Bush, why elect Jeb?

Please entertain us and tell me ONE candidate who is not a democratic candidate who one should vote for?

Talking about CANDIDATE now.
Not republican individual who votes. A candidate.

and why only think in terms of Bush? Life went on before Bush, and its now been years since one is in office.

Thank God John Edwards(the fraud) never got anywhere near the Presidency.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
16. The trick is to get people to vote at all...
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:10 AM
May 2013

You can't horse collar people and force them to vote. You have to give them a reason to vote and it has to be better than "He's a Democrat". Otherwise, it is all a silly game.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
17. Ralph Nader was the #1 don't bother to vote offender. Yet people defend him, why?
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:17 AM
May 2013

Nader did and still does-he tells people both are the same, and the negativity means people in 2000 didn't bother and people who listen to that fake meme won't bother in 2013

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
18. What are you talking about? People didn't bother to vote?
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:20 AM
May 2013

Al Gore won the popular vote by more than 500,000 votes.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
19. Not where it counted. 10 million less voted in 2000 than other modern elections
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:43 AM
May 2013

NH 4 votes
Bush didn't get seated

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
7. Educate them by taking a pointer- show DEMOCRATIC and then pointer straight ticket
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:13 PM
May 2013

maybe give a sheet of paper to the voters

DEMOCRATIC

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
11. And that is all that people need to know?
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:20 PM
May 2013

I'm sure you are correct that many people are satisfied with Party affiliation alone. But a Democrat that is a war monger or a Democrat that cuts Social Security benefits or a Democrat that destroys Medicare or a Democrat that supports Republican policies is no Democrat at all... Many voters will not buy that.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
12. if you know the answer, why start a thread with a question mark?.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:53 PM
May 2013

Whatever President Obama wants is 100% fine by me

I will go by the logic that whatever an altmedia wants, anyone who reads that altmedia
will agree with them100% of the time

and everyone will agree 100% of the time with anyone who 'likes' that person agreeing with them

In a way, its just like conspiracy theories and theorists
100% of the time, if you trust the person who is throwing the breadcrumbs you will believe whatever it is they are saying

So, one goes with %.
no one is 100%, but those closest are the best.

If the haters hate Barack Obama, like Rand Paul and Ron Paul and Ralph Nader and David Duke do(and anyone else), then 100% of the time, I will never listen to any of them ever again.

It works every single time.

No matter which wedge issue or what, which name or what

because everyone has an angle, there is noone who doesn't and everyone now plays their angle 100% of the time.

If you agreed with me, you would agree with me.
If you don't agree with me, you won't.

see, it's simple.

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