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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:18 AM May 2013

You heard about the Bleeding Obama target. How about the Bleeding Ex?




In addition to making a mannequin target that looks like President Barack Obama, Zombie Industries sells a mannequin called simply "The Ex" -- a large-breasted dummy that "bleeds" when shot.

At the National Rifle Association convention in Houston over the weekend, Zombie Industries, the maker of "life-sized tactical mannequin" targets, was asked to take down its "Bleeding Rocky Zombie" from its booth. A company worker told Buzzfeed the mannequin was pulled for looking too much like Obama.

Other mannequins made by Zombie Industries include a clown, a terrorist, and a Nazi. The only female target appears to be "The Ex," which sells for $99.95.

"In addition to the Ex Girlfriend Zombie, we currently sell 15 male zombies, 5 animal zombies & 2 aliens… to discriminate against Women by not having them represented in our product selection would be just plain sexist," the company states on its website.

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/vendor-that-pulled-obama-target-at-nra-convention?m=1
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You heard about the Bleeding Obama target. How about the Bleeding Ex? (Original Post) Junkdrawer May 2013 OP
That is seriously fucked up. bunnies May 2013 #1
Sexism is the secondary issue.... why not a male Ex.... What is more disturbing Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #2
Turning shooting ranges into murder practice Junkdrawer May 2013 #3
It is not secondary, because it is a female ex. boston bean May 2013 #6
Sorry, I don't agree that the primary issue is that the Ex is a female.... Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #7
Well, I dont' agree that is acceptable to use figures of humans either. boston bean May 2013 #8
Shall we agree to disagree? Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #10
I find it comical that the misogyny boston bean May 2013 #11
I find it equally comical that you view everything through one prism... Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #14
That would be your opinion and would be wrong. boston bean May 2013 #15
I resorted to a personal attack? Was I not responding in kind to your previous statement? Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #22
No, I made no personal attack. boston bean May 2013 #24
Then I do apologize...I intended no personal attack.... Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #25
Thank you. boston bean May 2013 #28
I'm sure we'll figure out way to communicate Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #30
It does devalue any life. HappyMe May 2013 #23
convention of assholes spanone May 2013 #4
Who's sicker, the company or it's clients? Too close to call, I think. Gidney N Cloyd May 2013 #5
Not even close... Kalidurga May 2013 #32
Maybe, but... Gidney N Cloyd May 2013 #33
That is a very good and valid point. Kalidurga May 2013 #34
No, see, this helps law-abiding gun owners avoid actually shooting women. Robb May 2013 #9
I don't really have a problem with these things. MrSlayer May 2013 #12
Making guns "fun" Bradical79 May 2013 #21
It's just target shooting. MrSlayer May 2013 #31
Lovely. (sarcasm) n/t Laelth May 2013 #13
The entire concept of realistic looking human targets MineralMan May 2013 #16
Yes, not providing a bloodied female mannequin is sexist. sufrommich May 2013 #17
Organization of vile scumbags gets marketed stuff that appeals to vile scumbags. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #18
The NRA exists for cowards and thier murder fantasies sigmasix May 2013 #19
Great rant. Constructive criticism: Junkdrawer May 2013 #20
The seedy industry that caters to the "needs" of the gun culture is really disgusting. Hoyt May 2013 #26
Typical gunner insanity alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #27
Misogyny American style BainsBane May 2013 #29
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
1. That is seriously fucked up.
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:23 AM
May 2013

"to discriminate against Women by not having them represented in our product selection would be just plain sexist,"
What. The. Fuck.

on edit: in the video, some dickhead shoots her in the head about 20 times at POINT BLANK range. WTF kind of target practice is that?!

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
2. Sexism is the secondary issue.... why not a male Ex.... What is more disturbing
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:24 AM
May 2013

is the devaluing of any life... Zombie Industries has to have the most disgustingly sick business model out there. Even worse than the Too Big Banks and the energy industry.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
6. It is not secondary, because it is a female ex.
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:32 AM
May 2013

Why the diminishment of that fact? It means something doesn't it?

You and I both know that approx. 3 women per day are murdered in this country by their significant other.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
7. Sorry, I don't agree that the primary issue is that the Ex is a female....
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:49 AM
May 2013

I don't believe it is acceptable to use humans of either gender for target practice. The root cause of sexism is a basic lack of respect for the lives of over half of the world's population.

I tend to look at things from several points of view... and to look for the central issue. To me the disrespect for human life is the primary issue.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
8. Well, I dont' agree that is acceptable to use figures of humans either.
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:50 AM
May 2013

However, the reason they called it "The Ex" and it was a female, does hold a larger meaning, which is not secondary.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
10. Shall we agree to disagree?
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:56 AM
May 2013

Would you have less objection to the lone female character being a Nazi, perhaps? A female clown? It's all disgusting.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
11. I find it comical that the misogyny
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:03 AM
May 2013

that is full frontal, in your face, must be diminished and a conversation can't even be had around that, or you might be accused of not caring about the human race.

So, yeah, we can agree to disagree.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
14. I find it equally comical that you view everything through one prism...
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:15 AM
May 2013

and that the issue dearest to your heart must always have primacy.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
15. That would be your opinion and would be wrong.
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:18 AM
May 2013

When I see it, I point it out, and discuss. Unlike others who would like to make some excuse as to why it's just not important enough or is secondary to all else.. And if that fails, resort to personal attacks, as you just did.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
22. I resorted to a personal attack? Was I not responding in kind to your previous statement?
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:51 AM
May 2013

Look... we see this particular situation differently. You focused on my, admittedly awkward, use of the word secondary. I think sexism is as much a symptom of a sick society as it is a problem of male dominance.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
24. No, I made no personal attack.
Tue May 7, 2013, 10:11 AM
May 2013

You on the other hand made presumptions about me and tried to put them in a negative light. You made personal accusations about me, and you don't even know me. Yet, you claim to know what is foremost in my mind about everything and then use that to insinuate that I care about no other human beings.

I was addressing your attacks throughout.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
25. Then I do apologize...I intended no personal attack....
Tue May 7, 2013, 10:21 AM
May 2013

Simply a statement about how we do not see this in the same light.

I think you are taking my remarks much too personally. I will be certain to choose my words much more carefully in any future exchanges.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
28. Thank you.
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:31 AM
May 2013

Just so you know, I pretty much don't take things seriously when people post ridiculous notions they have about me. So I wasn't taking to so personally. Although, I try to let people know I don't appreciate it.

My apologies as well, for any misunderstandings.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
23. It does devalue any life.
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:57 AM
May 2013

Turns target practice into murder practice. This company really creeps me out.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
32. Not even close...
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:47 PM
May 2013

It's the clients. Without them there would be no company. We would have never been bothered with hearing about them because the company would have never gotten off the ground. I am not saying the company isn't slimy and sick, but they exist to fill a demand.

So to me the big issue here is what kind of people buy from this company? Personally I hope I don't know anyone that does and if I found out that someone I know did, well I would avoid that kind of person.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,842 posts)
33. Maybe, but...
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:27 PM
May 2013

...is the company simply serving the market or pushing the limits of the market? You could argue that most all of us suppress our baser instincts, thinking they're socially unacceptable, but then if a company were to market a product that aligned with those suppressed instincts we might conclude that it's ok to stop suppressing them.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
34. That is a very good and valid point.
Wed May 8, 2013, 01:54 AM
May 2013

But, I think that an individual has to have something wrong with them when they see something that would give most people cause for concern and go ok that's cool, I'll go with that incredibly sick product. OTOH there is some sick individual that has come up with the sick product and is employed by some sick individual that went "hey, that's a great idea, we will sell loads of this to people that are sick and twisted in the head" and gives that person a promotion. I guess it all works together somehow and maybe we can't separate one from the other.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
9. No, see, this helps law-abiding gun owners avoid actually shooting women.
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:54 AM
May 2013

By shooting dummies, they're releasing all the pent-up rage they've ever had about women who done them wrong, without actually going out and shooting every one they can find.

Do I need the ?

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
12. I don't really have a problem with these things.
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:04 AM
May 2013

I'm into horror and all that kind of stuff. This could be a fun product. I don't like that they would make it a specific person, particularly the President.

I wouldn't find "the ex" objectionable if it came in either gender. If there's a female one you have to be able to blow the balls off of a male "ex" as well.

It's kind of ham handed but nothing to really go nuts over.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
21. Making guns "fun"
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:51 AM
May 2013

People treating actual weapons as toys for entertainment is another thing that bothers me about this.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
31. It's just target shooting.
Tue May 7, 2013, 05:26 PM
May 2013

Shooting is fun. Because you're enjoying yourself doesn't mean you're treating the gun as a toy or being irresponsible with it. I don't see how one equals the other.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
17. Yes, not providing a bloodied female mannequin is sexist.
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:28 AM
May 2013

These people are truly disturbed. I suppose not providing a bloodied black or brown mannequin would be racist to these troglodytes.

sigmasix

(794 posts)
19. The NRA exists for cowards and thier murder fantasies
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:38 AM
May 2013

Of course NRA members love to shoot life-sized dummies that represent the women they want to rape and murder. The entire point of the NRA's existence is to arm sociopaths, rapists and child molestors. What kind of sickness of the mind does it take to gun down effigies of an exwife? This sort of irresponsibility is the way the NRA is destroying our country- as they arm more wife beaters, more violent felons and more sociopathic gun humpers. The proof is in thier actions and the eagerness to purchase realistic bleeding innocent victim human target practice dummies. Anyone that is still attempting to claim that the NRA is about gun responsibility is guilty of jamming thier tiny little head in the sand.
The NRA's main reason to exist is to bring America to it's knees because of the damage to our society represented by the re-arming of violent felons and radicalizing irresponsible gun owners like NRA members that use effigies of thier exwives as target practice. Misogyny and guns leads to violent deaths for mothers and daughters. These dummies are representative of real women that are being victimized by NRA cowards with gunz.
Gun ownership for NRA members includes irresponsible use of guns to intimidate wives, girlfriends and children. Because most NRA members are cowards they will never take responsibility for thier actions that include a sick need to threaten women and children with thier gunz! And what better way to communicate a gun nut threat to kill someone than by shooting life-size replicas of the gun nut's intended victim?
The right wing gungeoneers disguise themselves as progressives, yet when the evil of thier narrative is exposed they always blame everyone other than the NRA. This behavior shows the true aims of pro-NRA DU gungeoneers, as well as the lies they propogate in service to the pedophiles, conspiracy theory mongers and racists of the NRA.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
20. Great rant. Constructive criticism:
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:42 AM
May 2013

Put a blank line between paragraphs and your posts will be easier to read.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
27. Typical gunner insanity
Tue May 7, 2013, 10:49 AM
May 2013

They will decry this particular version of the thing only because it refuses to cover over their wacko fantasies. The "blank paper target" let's them shoot the Ex in the privacy of their own sicko minds. This just takes the typical gunner mentality and puts it on (too much) display.

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