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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Tue May 28, 2013, 09:52 PM May 2013

"Tea Party Senators jump the shark"

Tea Party Senators jump the shark

By Greg Sargent at the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/05/23/tea-party-senators-jump-the-shark/

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In a key moment on the Senate floor this morning, John McCain came very close to stating outright that Tea Party Republican Senators are in the grip of what some of us have been describing as a kind of ”post policy nihilism” that has taken over the GOP. This should be a real clarifying moment: Tea Party Senators have pushed their disregard for basic governing norms so far that even fellow Republicans are calling them out for it.

Far right Senators Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, and Rand Paul have been insisting that Democrats and Republicans should not enter into conference negotiations over the budget unless Democrats agree in advance not to push for a rise in the debt ceiling as part of the talks. McCain took to the Senate floor today and laid into Senator Lee very hard over this:

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As McCain rightly pointed out, the Tea Party demand is effectively is that Republicans must not negotiate over the budget “unless certain conditions are imposed” on the negotiations beforehand “that happen to be important to a small group of United States Senators.”

“Obviously that would paralyze the process here,” McCain continued. The Tea Party Senators have complained that conference negotiations amount to back room dealing, but as McCain pointed out, whatever agreement is reached is subjected “to an overall vote of both bodies” of Congress. McCain suggested that governing can’t happen if the two sides can’t enter into negotiations, and in a reference to Lee’s claims about the debt ceiling, added: “maybe the senator from Utah ought to learn a little bit more about how business has been done in the Congress of the United States.”


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Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
2. Pul-eze! The tea poopers haven't "jumped the shark," they've just lost their popularity--
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:06 PM
May 2013

--so the other GOP's have to repudiate them or go down with them. I mean, it's not like they haven't been doing this obstructionism trick for, what? six years now? And what did these elder GOP reps do during those years? They stood behind them and shouted "go team!" Because they didn't want to lose their seats as so many other elder GOP reps did for being too "moderate."

NOW they've gone too far? If the Tea Party reps were still going strong (and the GOP with them) these GOPs wouldn't be saying a word--and most especially if the voters weren't finally beginning to wake up and say, "gosh, this not compromising stuff is hurting me...." Hel-loooooo! Self-serving cowards all!

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
3. +1000! You summarized that very nicely and I agree.
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:13 PM
May 2013

The "old" GOPers were more than happy to play along when it served their purposes. Frankly, I haven't seen much evidence that they're willing to break ranks, yet.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
4. Have there ever been such an influential group of imbeciles in American politics before?
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:45 AM
May 2013

They say history repeats itself. Is the tea party a repeat of something before?
The McCarthy era allowed evil insanity to rule for awhile so that may have some similarities.

Anyone know more about past America politics?

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
5. Well, there were those representatives who so were so against compromise they started a civil war...
Wed May 29, 2013, 06:28 PM
May 2013

...back in the mid-1800's. Maybe you heard about it? They were from red states, too, curiously enough.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
7. But they weren't imbeciles. They fought to retain their financial structure.
Wed May 29, 2013, 09:42 PM
May 2013

The free labor of slavery was the foundation of their wealth so they opposed abolishing it.
It was wrongheaded in that slavery was evil but there was a logic to it.

Today's pinheads simply follow a blind idiot-ology that has no validity or reason and they even have to deny reason in order to support it.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
6. What was the name McCain called them? Coo-Coo bird?
Wed May 29, 2013, 06:34 PM
May 2013

Something like that.

Whatever it was, I enjoyed hearing Cruz repeat it on the Senate floor.

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