In the interest of saving precious bandwidth

[Dreamer Tatum]

To those of you who are posting 1000-word pleadings larded down with links, embedded videos, and what have you, all in an effort to justify in 2013 what no one would accept in 2006:

Cut it out.

No one who actually values their civil liberties and privacy is going to click on the 50th YouTube video that either makes some
arcane point, or attempts to justify what it going on now with "well, the other guy did it."

"But he did it too" is actually one of the antitheses of a well-functioning system of jurisprudence.

So save your fingers. Maybe instead of that, text a few love notes to your masters at the NSA. They may not respond, but they will be watching.

[tridim]

1. Your post demonstrates you don't have a clue what BushCo actually did during his term.

That's the real problem here.

[Rex]

2. Cut it out!

Leave Dreamer Tantrum alone!

[RC]

3. Who doesn't have a clue?

Going into bu$h's 4th term, things are not getting any better for us commoners.

[tridim]

5. Dreamer Tatum. nt

[Aerows]

7. I hated it then

I hate it now. Enough said.

[tridim]

8. I hate it too, but it's not warentless wiretapping and it's not illegal.

What Bush did was illegal.

[Aerows]

9. Issuing a warrant

that is top secret and won't be revealed until 2038 for everybody on Verizon's business network is not illegal?

Probable cause is out of the window because ... "We want to obtain tens of millions of phone records just because" is now probable cause for a warrant?

Oh, right. We could find out about it 25 years later. That makes it SO much better.

[Dreamer Tatum]

4. I have a wonderful clue: IT'S STILL BEING DONE AND IS BEING EXTENDED.

The real problem is people who wouldn't DREAM of equivocating then who equivocate now with a
giant sloppy smile on their faces.

Say hi to the NSA for me.

[tridim]

6. Warentless wiretapping is NOT still being done.

You're lying about it.

[Aerows]

10. 25 years later

that we find out about it kind of makes it warrantless in my opinion, since by then the statute of limitations is long gone, and nobody will be around to bring to justice. Because this is illegal.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

11. So I've got you down for taking the NSA and President at their word

Let me know when you've changed your mind.

[madmom]

12. So when was the election? The one

that gives you the authority to tell everyone what they can and cannot post.

[LWolf]

13. "But he did it too,"

or first, is a stereotypical juvenile response that adults who expect to be taken seriously should never use.

As a matter of fact, as they learn to their dismay, that rule holds for my middle school students. They learn it pdq.