People on Facebook...

[SHRED]

...expressing concern about their privacy.

Irony so thick you can't cut it with a chainsaw.

[silverweb]

1. Ain't it the truth?

[yellowcanine]

2. Anyone who has an expectation of privacy on Facebook is dealing with a deck missing all of the face

cards.

[SHRED]

3. LOL

[iamthebandfanman]

46. or they should learn to read the documents they agree to

when they sign up for services over the internet.

the OP seems to missing the fact that FB is a CHOICE..
having my phone tapped and emails read is not.

[Lex]

4. . . . or any place on the internet including

here at DU

[SHRED]

7. exactly

[orpupilofnature57]

15. Tons of us were forthcoming with our names and numbers in

2004 .

[Skittles]

5. facebook, twitter and "smart" phones have confirmed what I have long suspected

the degree of idiocy in America is staggering

[SHRED]

8. +10

[Skittles]

20. before all that technology

I used to date a guy 20 years ago who would tell me well over half of all Americans are f***ing idiots - now, reading their comments and seeing their hysteria over their perceived facebook friends, claiming they cannot keep up with family without it, watching people who have to check their phones 50 times during a movie, seeing people, sometimes whole families, going out to dinner and sitting there all glued to their handhelds - fuck, now I know he was correct.

[bunnies]

21. So true.

I used to think people with those damn bluetooth headsets were bad. Little did I know.

[Skittles]

23. cue the people who think I am afraid of technology

no - I simply understand that technology should be part of life, not life itself

[bunnies]

24. I agree.

It drives me absolutely nuts when someone comes over for a visit & spends half the time texting or talking on the phone. It seems like basic common courtesy is quickly becoming a thing of the past. I know some people who cant go more than a few minutes without checking their facebook page. And you wouldnt believe how many things weve miss because nobody calls people to invite them to anything anymore. I think its a matter of balance & too many people are way off.

[Skittles]

30. and OH

the ones who cannot get off the phone long enough to simply ACKNOWLEDGE a clerk who is serving them? Or act like the waitress is interrupting their texting? F***!!!!!

[bunnies]

37. omg.

Dont you just want to slap them? I was behind a woman the other day who actually just stood there at the counter carrying on her phone conversation. The clerk gave her the price and she just stood there yapping away not even getting out her money. The poor clerk was just standing there looking at all of us in line like WTF? She finally cleared the yappers sale and helped the person in line behind her. This, of course, caused the yapper to throw a fit because SHE was next in line. Said something to the person on the other end of the call about the clerk being a "rude bitch". HUH? It amazes me that some people can be so completely unaware of how they actually occur in the world. I would have sworn that we were all part of some sort of hidden-camera prank. It was unreal.

[Skittles]

39. I mentioned such a rudeness to a clerk

she said it happens ALL THE TIME - and not just young folk either - this sickness cuts across ALL AGE GROUPS - it is sad and disturbing

[bunnies]

45. totally.

I wonder how much lower such people can sink. Ive no doubt we'll find out soon enough. *sigh

[JanMichael]

59. Wife's masters is in Library Science and Information Technology

she refuses to own a smart phone, does not text, nor check for messages etc. You should hear the conversations with the phone company...."no, I only want a PHONE that I may use in the car for emergencies, or calling my folks and sister when we are out of town. No. I do not need to text. No, I do not need the internet on the road, we have maps...."

It's beyond ridiculous.

[Skittles]

62. oh do I hear Mrs. JanMichael

at work I instant message technical conversations with people in India, China, Brazil, WHILE monitoring multiple consoles - outside of surfing for news and my forays into DU (on a laptop) to kick some ass, I have NO desire or need to be tied to a handheld - I find it RIDICULOUS

[Blanks]

26. Anymore checking Facebook is akin to...

Seeing what kind of graphics with text the 2nd amendment folks have developed for my family to share.

Until Facebook, I had no idea that my family was obsessed with gun ownership.

I hardly check in anymore.

[Skittles]

34. it only took email to find out an aunt is racist

I had to cut her off when she would not stop sending those ridiculous rightwing propaganda bullshit emails - hey, I have some issues with Obama but if you cannot acknowledge the man is American, Christian and very intelligent then I cannot discuss his policies with you!!!

[Blanks]

54. Quite a bit of that appears on my news feed as well.

I've been just letting it go. One of these days I'm just gonna go off on them.

My younger brother (50 years old) is still waiting for Obama to find him a job. It's unfortunate when you get to my age and find out that your little brother is a conservative gun toting moron. I didn't even know he had any guns.

[appleannie1]

6. People on facebook tell the world how they wipe their butt.

[Lex]

9. Well, maybe your friends do

but mine don't discuss that.

[yellowcanine]

16. It's hyperbole and not that far off, imo.

Some people make good use of FB but there are a lot of losers there as well who don't seem to have anything better to do except to tell everyone which itch they just scratched.

[Lex]

19. friend management on FB

is imperative . . .

[ballardgirl]

43. Or maybe

they are a bit lonely.

[yellowcanine]

56. No doubt. But it is a lazy way and shallow way to connect with people.

Volunteer for something and do some good.

[TheCowsCameHome]

18. yes, but showing how they do it is a bit over the top.

Facebook Schmacebook.

[AtheistCrusader]

49. No, that's YouTube.

[TheCowsCameHome]

51. YouTube,MyTube,Everybody'sTube,.......

[Jenoch]

25. Well, maybe not on Facebook,

but they will give you a Tweet with all the pertinent details.

[bunnies]

10. Imagine if the gov't compiled info on people like facebook does...

talk about a meltdown!

[orpupilofnature57]

11. Anyone over 18 that needs to have Esoteric conversations publicly...

values their Ego more than privacy .

[Warren DeMontague]

41. you mean like the ones that happen here?

[orpupilofnature57]

52. Just like the ones that happen here, I've heard it called.

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" The Cool kids lunch table " .

[Warren DeMontague]

53. No one wants to sit with me, sadly.

It may be because I like to fling my own poop.

[orpupilofnature57]

55. I love the poop you fling !!!!

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[Union Scribe]

12. not really.

Giving a company information on your own accord is not the same as the government taking it under the guise of 'da war on terra'. I don't get people who act like if you're not living in a cave off the grid that you have no expectation of privacy anywhere doing anything.

[SHRED]

17. I have many more concerns...

...about the corporate private sector than I do my government...although the lines are very blurry now.

[Blanks]

27. I've always believed that you shouldn't post anything...

On the Internet that you wouldn't want to see in the newspaper.

There shouldn't be any expectation of privacy. Even email can be shared and should be carefully worded by the author.

Only a fool would share excessively private information.

[iamthebandfanman]

47. exactly.

you checkmark and agree to a terms of service when you sign up for anything on the internet..
its a CHOICE you make.

having your phones tapped and emails read without your knowledge is certainly not a choice.

[boilerbabe]

13. yes but people have the option of joining facebook or not.

not the same thing.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. people are aware of what they share on FB

this does not mean they are ok with sharing their emails/phone calls/ searches

[SHRED]

22. When people choose to go online...

...or use a cell phone and then expect privacy then they simply aren't thinking those decisions through very well in my opinion.

[Union Scribe]

28. So how can two people talking expect to have a private conversation

from your point of view? Do they have to be in the same room, under a blanket, whispering? Everything else is fair game?

[SHRED]

29. pre-paid phones...cash

If you're that concerned

[Union Scribe]

31. Well that's ironic.

So we should act like people with something to hide to avoid the intrusion of an agency trying to surveil people who have things to hide. That's like saying if I don't want to be on cameras everywhere I should wear a ski mask. Why should it be the problem of innocent people to have to hide from overreach?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

48. so we should all go off the grid? not use phones? not use email although its required for day

to day existence?

[Gormy Cuss]

60. +1 n/t

[Trajan]

32. A room full of Luddites?

You should still be able to expect privacy for those things you DON'T post online for the world to see ...

Using Facebook, Twitter and the like forces us to be careful about what information is exposed, but doing so should NOT imply that we have waived the right to maintain certain information private and away from prying eyes ...

Saying that the mere use of those social websites forces us to expect complete exposure off all of our secrets ... well ... that is a ridiculous assertion ...

[graywarrior]

33. LOL, glad you said it.

[Earth_First]

35. Meh.

They've already got me pegged based on my arrest record.

Ill gladly bitch publicly and realize that its merely additional fodder for the FEMA camp re-education vacation...

[elehhhhna]

38. Welcome to DU!!!!

[GoneOffShore]

42. And now you can say to them -

Don't let the door hit you in the butt because they're gone, long gone.

[iamthebandfanman]

44. not exactly the same..

seeing as everyone on facebook checkmarked AN AGREEMENT to have the service...
I don't remember signing up for my phone tap ..

[lynne]

50. Not unlike those on talk boards -

- expressing the same concern. Don't expect privacy here, either.

One huge difference, those on FB have control on what postings, pics, comments others on the internet are able to see via privacy controls. There is no such option here. Of course, both places can be accessed by authorities should they wish.

[orpupilofnature57]

57. The why they wish, and who they are wishing isn't the point

it's the fact that Drones, omnipotent surveillance capabilities, and carte blanche authority without accountability, are the apparatus of a police state. Obviously people being able to discuss and criticize the functions of our government, in forum situations, shows that we are a free and democratic society, still we don't know who or what will govern us in twenty years .

[WinkyDink]

58. "People on Facebook..." presumably have voluntarily and wittingly posted their info/photos.

I didn't ask for a party line when I signed with Verizon.

[Orrex]

61. "Wittingly" has nothing to do with it.

If you're the person who has read every last word of their Terms of Service, then you'd probably be the first one in history to do so.

It would not surprise me to learn that Verizon's ToS include something along the lines of "user data shall be subject to reasonable review," which is about all they'd need in order to hand your entire call history to the NSA.

I recently had occasion to ask around two dozen people in my office if they'd read every word of their contracts w/ their cell providers. None had done so--myself included--and most hadn't read a word of their agreements outside of the net total fee per month.

Very little is done "wittingly" in our society, especially when it comes to reading 15 pages of 6-point-font legalese.