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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:37 PM Jun 2013

Expert: NSA phone-tracking 'insane'

A longtime expert on the National Security Agency calls its practice of vacuuming up millions of American phone records nothing short of “insane.”

James Bamford, who has written four books on the NSA and writes often about its practices since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, told POLITICO in an exclusive interview on Thursday the agency’s phone-tracking system was the latest case in which he said it overstepped the law under the pretext of defending the U.S. from its enemies."

“If you want do that, do it the legal way,” he said. “There are 300 million people in the U.S. — what is [the tracking] supposed to do? It’s just insane. A sane person would not request access to everybody’s communications in the United States.”

A senior government official defended the NSA’s practices on Thursday, arguing that its data collection “has been a critical tool in protecting the nation from terrorist threats to the United States, as it allows counterterrorism personnel to discover whether known or suspected terrorists have been in contact with other persons who may be engaged in terrorist activities, particularly people located inside the United States.”

"House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) went even further on Thursday, declaring to reporters that the NSA’s phone-tracking “was used to stop a terrorist attack in the United States.”

“We know that,” he said. “It’s important. It fills in a little seam that we have. And it’s used to make sure that there’s not an international nexus to any terrorism event that they may believe is ongoing in the United States.”

Bamford, however, said Wednesday’s Guardian report described “an expansion of power that’s never happened before – the use of NSA for domestic surveillance on virtually all of the Americans in the U.S.” He compared it to the practices of the government of East Germany, where, as Bamford put it, “everybody’s a suspect until you prove you’re not a suspect.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/james-bamford-nsa-phone-tracking-92379.html

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Expert: NSA phone-tracking 'insane' (Original Post) damnedifIknow Jun 2013 OP
It's not really everyone in the United States, millions of poor people have no cellphone or internet JaneyVee Jun 2013 #1
Well THAT makes it all better! MNBrewer Jun 2013 #2
Hey, maybe we can put RFiD chips in the poor (we'll charge them, of course). n/t DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #4
they have landlines, tho , many of them. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #3
I was told 3 decades ago arikara Jun 2013 #5

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. they have landlines, tho , many of them.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jun 2013

and use mail.
The extent of how much communication is being tracked is still being discovered.
You can bet that whatever Verizon was told to produce, so were the other telcoms.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
5. I was told 3 decades ago
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:11 AM
Jun 2013

by a friend who worked for the telephone company to never say anything over the phone that you didn't want overheard. Its always gone on unfortunately.

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