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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJames Bamford: Post-September 11, NSA ‘enemies’ include us
"Somewhere between Sept. 11 and today, the enemy morphed from a handful of terrorists to the American population at large, leaving us nowhere to run and no place to hide."
We were told that we were to listen to all conversations that were intercepted, to include those of Americans, Adrienne Kinne, a former NSA voice interceptor, told me. She was recalled to active duty after Sept. 11.
Some of those conversations are personal, she said. Some even intimate.
I had a real problem with the fact that people were listening to it and that I was listening to it.
When I was on active duty in 94 to 98, we would never collect on an American.
"So much intercepted information is now being collected from enemies at home and abroad that, in order to store it all, the agency last year began constructing the ultimate monument to eavesdropping. Rising in a remote corner of Utah, the agencys gargantuan data storage center will be 1 million square feet, cost nearly $2 billion and likely be capable of eventually holding more than a yottabyte of data equal to about a septillion (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) pages of text."
" Rather, it was years of fearmongering that sent everyone rushing across the bridge. Without these draconian measures, we were told, we were in imminent danger of death by terrorist. For the Bush administration, the constant drumbeat of fear was necessary to launch and support the war in Iraq since no real danger existed.
From the outside, America began resembling Deputy Barney Fife from The Andy Griffith Show, shaking and trembling and constantly pointing a gun in every direction. There was Homeland Security with its rainbow of colors for security alerts; the weekly warnings of dire attacks, with no indication of time or location, none of which ever turned out to be credible; messages plastered on buses and billboards warning members of the public to keep a close eye on their neighbors and even their family; and body frisks at airports by security thugs looking for forbidden tubes of toothpaste."
2011 article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62999.html
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)I've read all of Bamfords books, and NOBODY knows the NSC like he does.
Mojorabbit
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(10,597 posts)I hope this doesn't die in the night!!!!! That article was from 9/8/11, but it could have been written today, and at first when I seen the link, I thought it was a current response to what is happening right now. I expect Amy Goodman to have him on DemocracyNow soon, and probably this week, if not tomorrow. Remember Frank Church's words! Thanks for this OP!
blkmusclmachine
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(36,109 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)80% in polls were in favor of whatever was the latest on the war on terra and supported Bush. Us poor Americans, always pushed and pulled about and never in control of our fate!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)We were told that we were to listen to all conversations that were intercepted, to include those of Americans, Adrienne Kinne, a former NSA voice interceptor, told me. She was recalled to active duty after Sept. 11.
Some of those conversations are personal, she said. Some even intimate. I had a real problem with the fact that people were listening to it and that I was listening to it. When I was on active duty in 94 to 98, we would never collect on an American.
Despite his hollow campaign protests, President Barack Obama has greatly expanded what President George W. Bush began. And through amendments to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Congress largely ratified the secret Bush program.
This piece confirms two things: 1) The current revelation is not news (except for the leak which is new) and 2) the media constantly conflate Bush's illegal spying with the program currently being discussed.
ACLU Ad: The President Lied to the American People and Broke the Law
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022973979
This whole NSA story is nothing more than recycled outrage. Glenn Greenwald didn't break shit.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022967844
Lawmakers Tear Into Obamas Surveillance Program, Pledge To Challenge It At Supreme Court
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022977943